The REAL Lesson Behind the Jackie Robinson Little League Team Being Stripped of Title

Posted: February 12, 2015 in Uncategorized


First, the story (in the mainstream media)


Jackie Robinson West Little League Official Cites ‘One More Battle to Face’

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The Rev. Jesse Jackson joined the news conference, saying that the team earned the title and will fight to keep it.

Little League Baseball stripped the championship title from the Chicago-based Jackie Robinson West team on Wednesday, despite a plea from Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel. The team’s coach was suspended for violating a rule that prohibits the inclusion of players who live outside a team’s geographic area.

The first all-African-American team to win the championship was instructed to vacate wins from the 2014 Little League Baseball International Tournament, including its Great Lakes Regional and U.S. championships. The national championship title was then awarded to Mountain Ridge Little League from Las Vegas.

A spokesman for Little League International told ABC News today that the organization “stands by the difficult decision” announced yesterday.

“Little League International will be working with its counsel to ensure Jackie Robinson West Little League officials and their attorney are fully educated regarding the factual basis of the decision,” Brian McClintock of Little League International said in a statement.

Four things stand out:

1. No black person in America should be surprised that this happened.

2. The story will be twisted to make it sound like black people are the only ones who “break the rules” when it is more likely that this isn’t the first time a team has had players who live outside a particular area. It is only an issue when it suits the League’s purposes to make it an issue.

3. Black people will come off looking like we expect the rules to be changed for us because cheating is the only way black people can win over white people. Just like “affirmative action” was labeled as ‘reverse racism’ (cheating) since it  that is the only way black people can “win” a job over a white person.

4. Any white person (like the same Chicago Mayor Rahm Emmanuel who closed dozens of black schools last year) can capitalize on this “emotional” black issue (even if he or she could really give a damn) and win the undying (and unthinking) loyalty of blacks — who quickly forget it’s an ELECTION YEAR for the mayor.

 What is the REAL lesson behind this story?

That as long as black people give white people the power to define OUR worth by giving us “titles” and “awards”

WE are giving up our power to define AND value ourselves.

The real tragedy is NOT the loss of a “title” — the tragedy is black adults and parents are STILL teaching our black children the same self-defeating lessons we were taught by our parents and the black adults in our community:


Which reminds me of some recent headlines in the media:

“Selma’s Oscar snub”

“Beyonce’s controversial snub by Grammys”

It’s the same old saw and the same old questions as to why we aren’t treated correctly

When the REAL question should be:

When will our unquenchable thirst for white validation finally come to an end?


It’s like a man who chases after a pretty woman begging and begging and begging her to like him and go out with him.

He gets a new car, some fly clothes, a nicer house, and a nose job and she still refuses.

So he offers her all his money and material possessions, including his brand new car and she turns him down–again.

So, he says to himself: “I know what I’ll do! I’ll get more stuff, work harder, be more successful, and then she’ll have to like me!”

When, in reality, if he cut his losses and moved on to another woman who appreciated his many qualities

He would discover that he really doesn’t need the other woman’s approval to begin with and that he is alright just the way he is.

Because once he really thinks about the callous way she treated him he’d realize

she wasn’t worth his time to begin with.

And THAT is the lesson we are FAILING to teach our children

Which is one of the MOST IMPORTANT LESSONS we could ever teach them:

To NEVER seek the approval of ANYONE who is NOT MORALLY FIT TO JUDGE THEM.

Once black people move away from needing “titles” and “awards” and white validation we will discover



But, if we are determined to, just for the fun of it, give someone a “title” or an “award” surely we are capable of supporting and financing our OWN leagues without sponsorship from corporate america

and even if our children have to play baseball without getting national recognition from those who didn’t want to give it anyway

they can still have good clean FUN, get plenty of exercise and still turn out to be some DAMN GOOD BALL PLAYERS.

And we would TEACH them HOW to see through the SHAM of black progress by teaching them that the TITLES given to black politicians and preachers who DO NOT SERVE OUR BEST INTERESTS come from the same entities that are oppressing us


And REDUCE the number of black youth who–instead of seeking real knowledge and education and skills

seek ANY opportunity to strut their black stuff across a stage with a mike in one hand and their genitals and self-respect in the other in their desperate attempts to be


It is time for ALL black people to put on our thinking caps, grab a flashlight and search for our SELF-RESPECT

Because TRUE SELF-RESPECT is something NO ONE CAN GIVE YOU. It is something ONLY YOU can give yourself and something only YOU can GIVE AWAY.

  1. Thank you Ms. Pam for this one. This is just the continued open season on Blackness and Black people. I come across Black people every day that still fool themselves into thinking that the world is changing and we need to just stop all the race baiting and talking about race so it can in turn vanished. I am so tired of the whole thing I’ll rarely get into with people anymore.

    • Trojan Pam says:

      @ hunglikejesus

      You’re right and things are going to get worse for us as the economy tanks

      and no, it is NOT getting better. I always suggest that people use their common sense and to remember that politicians — ALL POLITICIANS — lie for a living, including the ones they trust the most.

      Our reaction to our increasing oppression will determine whether our children survive PSYCHOLOGICALLY intact.

      The only way this will happen is if WE start telling the TRUTH and stop ducking and dodging and getting all emotional like we are shocked by every incident of racism.

      But, I know what you mean about talking to people

      • Tonia says:

        Trojan Pam,
        I so agree that our oppression IS increasing! The majority are blind to this fact and our survival, as a people, is starting to concern me. IMO pre Civil Rights blacks could withstand the racism was because they understood it and shared its lessons with their children. Today we’ve been lulled into a false sense of security and when things happen the shock is palpable. I’m so glad my eyes are beginning to open. Nothing that happen in terms of blacks and racism shocks me like it used to.

  2. Courtney H. says:

    @ Trojan Pam:

    Thank you for this article! Harvey (mrsuperboy223) is saying the same things that you are saying about this:

    Harvey makes a lot of good points. Be forewarned — he uses a lot of profanity.

    • Charles says:

      You are on the money.These children don’t, need their trophy too validate us As a matter of fact better off without them.Coming up in this city,segregation was the norm. So our own league was formed with teams from all over the city.The ballplayers who could not sleep in hotels with the other team members would go around to different areas of the city and teach baseball, hitting, catching, throwing a cure ball.And again I say thank you Dr Ernie Banks for providing lessons beyond baseball to youngsters who had to go for their self.That said,separation from these people will come and soon.Their mid treatment of people all over the world will be their demise and this we invited into civilization has destroyed our repretation and humanity looks at us as a willing participants in this evil.Make it clear,Do for self and ALL our problems go away

      • Trojan Pam says:

        @ Charles

        Black people were better off during segregation in terms of how we supported each other and dated and married each other. And most importantly, our children saw black adults organizing and supporting each other. It wasn’t perfect, but anything is better than what we’re doing now.

        What do our children see? Us cow-towing to corporate america because we don’t have our own businesses. Our children know we won’t leave them a damn thing (other than a little money) and they’ll have to get out there in this cruel world and beg for a job just like we did

        they see us shopping but not in stores run by black people
        they see us eating in restaurants but not owned by black people
        they see us watching entertainment but most of it is not controlled by black people

        and then they think, wow, my parent(s) are just as powerless as I am

        and I’m a kid

        I’m not blaming black people for all that is wrong with us, but I do believe that it is up to us to see what is going on and make a decision that this IS NOT ALRIGHT

        That’s the very least we can do is acknowledge that WE (not just the other guy or gal) but WE ALL HAVE A PROBLEM and it will be up to us to fix ourselves.

  3. Timothy says:

    I heard of this story too. This story is certainly not surprising for people who are aware of the system of white supremacy. The talent of the black little league baseball team is undeniable. These children should be respected for their grit and talent. Not to mention that extremists and racists are using this tittle stripping as an excuse for them to collectively demonize black people as “lazy” and “corrupt.” We certainly know that slicker tactics, in getting an edge, has existed among many white teams for years and decades. Also, this situation existed by the work of a rival coach whose team was decisively beaten. Rahm Emanuel certainly will use this issue as a way for him to try to win his current mayoral campaign. Rahm Emanuel has been in uncertain straits politically because of his pro-one percent actions (from closing down public schools massively to his neoliberal economic policies). The lust of white validation is a huge problem in our community. When we appreciate our own being and learn to work with each other positively, our spirits grow and our lives develops. As the elders have said, we have to build. Nothing grows without building, harnessing our energies, and cultivating our culture. We grow fruit by making sure that the foundation is strong, that the trees bloom, and our fruits are healthy. We have to establish our own Matrix since the current Matrix of white supremacy is very oppressive literally. We have to be real and keep it real.

    • Trojan Pam says:

      @ Timothy

      You’re right. For me neo liberal and neo conservative all amount to the SAME thing, only one type of deception is preferred over another and it forces the oppressed populations to “choose”

      There is only one kind of political system and that is the system of white supremacy and because most black people do not know this, they fall for the voting schemes and “first black” this and that, thinking we are making a “change”

      remember that slogan from the 2008 Presidential campaign? “Change you can believe in” ?

      The only thing that changed were the FACES and COMPLEXIONS of the puppets on the stage.

      And this Little League team of talented black boys are getting their first tastes of what it means to be black under a system of white supremacy despite all the black people in high places with fancy “titles”

      • Timothy says:

        I agree with you Sister Trojan Pam.

        The mainstream political system has been manipulated and controlled by corporate money, NGOs, and other political elite organizations (from the Pilgrim Society to the many corporate foundations). Carroll Quigley’s literature has documented this. Also, Brother Malcolm X has spoken about the treachery made by the Republicans and the Democrats via his eloquent 1964 “Ballot or the Bullet” speech. I remember the Change you can believe in slogan from 2008. Back then, I was 25 years old and back then, some people were captivated by the rhetoric. Now in 2015, we see income inequality expanded, and new wars arising that some never would have dreamed of back in 2008.

        Many of the same political puppets exist in cabinets stretching multiple administrations. The young black baseball players have certainly been hurt by the system of white supremacy. Change comes by a revolutionary change of thinking and a radical change in how we gain political and economic power. Real change is about repudiating the system of white supremacy and forming our own independent powerbase. We want liberation.

        • Trojan Pam says:

          @ Timothy

          President Obama was (s)elected to carry out the MANDATE of the people who educated, financed, vetted, and nominated him. For example, Obamacare was FUNDED and WRITTEN by the healthcare industry.

          What more need be said?

          • Timothy says:

            Exactly Sister.

            The reactionaries who criticized the ACA forget that the ACA is not even socialist, but a corporate inspired law. The Heritage Foundation influenced many parts of the ACA. Many people want to obsessively blame President Obama for everything under the sun without looking at the people who financed, educated, and nominated him (these people are the power behind the man politically).

      • The parties are two sides to the same coin. There’s no difference at all. Politicians love to act as though we have a choice. It’s just the illusion of choice.

  4. Courtney H. says:

    I know that this may be a little OT, but this has something to do with what young Black adults will be facing in the future. Like others have said on this thread, we as Black people have to get our act together, because the agents of White supremacy definitely are. This article shows how they are organizing more and more on college campuses:

    Watch out — there is a lot of racist derailing in the comments section.

    • Timothy says:

      Thank you for showing the link Sister Courtney.

      As the old saying goes, we have to know about the tactics of our enemies. The idea of white supremacy is a lie, because geniuses, strong people, and exceptionally talented people exist among black human beings. Black people then and now have made great contributions in human history. The article shows white supremacists acting slick in their actions, but their rhetoric is still evil, demonic, and anti-God. Colleges are readily breeding grounds for the promotion of white racist propaganda (which is total garbage). I have noticed that many of these young white supremacists are not only anti-black, but they are Islamophobic, anti-Semitic, and xenophobic. The covers of Charlie Hebdo are blatantly offensive and disrespectful. So, this fight against white supremacy is international. We should continue to condemn white racism. You’re right that we have to be about our business, organize our organizations, and build up our communities. We have to know ourselves and use social action as a means for us to combat evil and promote goodness plus justice. We want positive social change and we’re willing to fight for our human rights too. Human rights is superior to states’ rights.

      • Courtney H. says:

        You are welcome, Brother Timothy.

        Thank you for reading the article and responding. You are right. Even deep down, the white supremacists know that the theory of white supremacy is a lie. My late mother told me that people who hate like that hate themselves. You are also right about these bigots hating everybody. It takes a lot of energy to hate.

        We have to keep our eyes on the bigots, because a lot of them will resort to violence. However, we need to concentrate on building our communities and protecting the rights we still have. It takes a lot of energy, but it is energy well spent.

  5. Mariama says:

    Thank you for this post Pam. I am amazed at how black folks still continue to drink this kool aid of white validation and can’t seem to get any kind of self esteem, dignity, and worth without the clapping hands of white folks. I admit that sometimes I just want to scream at them and shake them ti’ll they get sense. I am learning that these kinds of folks you just leave alone.

    • Trojan Pam says:

      @ Mariama

      It is all we know. We were taken from everything that made us a people. Our language, history, culture, religion, food, even our children and families were stripped from us and this condition lasted over 400 YEARS.

      At the end of the most horrific and LONGEST human HOLOCAUST in recent history, we were forced into total dependency after slavery was allegedly abolished (it wasn’t)

      Every attempt we’ve made to have some independence has been sabotaged (remember ‘Black Wall Street’? and the Black Codes and Jim Crow and legalized segregation?

      And after we rose up as a population and said “Enough!” during the 60s instead of real equality we were forced fed integration and told that the only way we could be “equal” was to imitate and assimilate with whites and we bought it because we didn’t know that it would make independence and self-sufficiency impossible to achieve — but our enemies knew and that’s why they sold us on integration because the most skilled warriors keep their friends close and their enemies CLOSER

      Even as I write these blog posts I realize I am sick, too, and that I’m still fighting the desire to get that white validation and approval because it was programmed into my head from the time I was a small child. So, I do understand why so many are confused but unfortunately, our survival depends on us breaking the chains of white validation before we can do anything that even comes close to respecting ourselves as black people.

  6. Shanequa says:

    Our people have been train to eat, shit, and sleep white validation. Black people would be much better off if we stick together, stop including other nationalities in our struggle & waiting for their approval. If we want this madness to end, its going to have to get worst for us for our people to wake up an understand the game of white supremacy. Enough of the marching, enough with these political campaigns, and enough of trying to change your physical characteristics & name to please non blacks. We’ve been going out our way to please others for years an our conditions haven’t change. We have no friends but each other.

    What worries me the most is our black children who are the easiest most vulnerable targets are going to be the main prey. The economy is tanking an some of our people have become condition to depend on government assistants especially to feed their children. We already have black mothers & fathers sexually, verbally & physically abusing their children as well as killing them picture what they will do in a crisis when the economy officially falls. When the final battle comes to win our freedom we will lose some of our people in the process.

    • Courtney H. says:

      @ Shanequa:

      In your second paragraph, you brought up something that I have been thinking about lately. Do you notice more and more murders among Black family members recently? Just last week, a Black man in Douglasville, Georgia, (about 20 miles west of ATL, where I live) killed his ex-wife, her boyfriend, and two of his own children. He seriously wounded his two other children before killing himself. The reason? The adults were allegedly arguing about tax money! There was a case a few years ago when a Black woman drove her car into a lake and drowned herself and her children, though one of her children survived and was rescued. You DID NOT see this in the Black community just a few years ago, and now we are seeing more and more of this. This is part of accepting white values that has become a part of wanting white validation. You are right — it will get worse as the economy worsens. I am very fearful. What kind of a message are we sending to our kids when we do crazy things like White people?

  7. Shanequa says:

    @ Trojan Pam you mention in a comment “Even as I write these blog posts I realize I am sick, too, and that I’m still fighting the desire to get that white validation and approval because it was programmed into my head from the time I was a small child.” Like brother Del Jones mention every black African in the diaspora especially in America is a product of the “American Nigger Factory” in which we are trying to heal from.

    • Trojan Pam says:

      @ Shanequa

      I have to agree with Brother Del but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. That doesn’t mean hating or mistreating anyone but it does require that we keep an emotional distance from white people to lessen our white identification because there are so many black people who won’t admit it but who feel more sympathetic and empathetic towards whites than their own people and don’t even understand why.

      Often we treat whites better both in and out of the bedroom than the people who look just like us. That is the HEIGHT of mental illness (insanity) and self-hatred (because you can’t despise black people without despising yourself).

      there is a tremendous amount of work to do

  8. Shanequa says:

    @ Trojan Pam
    I agree with you 100%.

  9. Mbeti says:

    Your post makes some valid points but misses a important point which may effect the conclusions.
    In studying “agency” an elaboration on freedom and choice studies show african americans have less and have less of a sense that they have it.

    May point is ,and the point you fail to address is we african americans and to similar degree black people world wide were and still are being forced through violence to “validate whiteness”.

    In the sixties we rose up and were quickly beaten down.
    we worship a white god ,straighten our hair ,sex white people when chosen ,because failure to do so will result in poverty AND death.

    Virtually every white person from birth to death is a solider in a war in which we are the enemy.
    What part of america the pinnacle of white civilization spending 10 times more on weapons then the entire world combined are we supposed to miss.

    And its difficult to even discuss it what with NSA just to name a few.
    I sorry but it like you advice not to shop where you are not respected, really ? where else when even if you do get past generations of built-up externally imposed self contempt and hate you’ll be tracked and targeted for extermination.

    • Trojan Pam says:

      @ Mbeti

      I hear what you’re saying so if I follow your logic, then the alternative to doing something (different) is doing nothing.

      And how well is that working for us?

      I know we depend on people who do not like or respect us for our basic needs but there are times when you can decide to NOT shop someplace where the salespeople are rude or racist, where the store or restaurant is filthy, or where they refuse to hire blacks.

      there are very few black people who only have one or two places available to shop. Most of us have cars and think NOTHING of driving 20 or 30 miles to PARTY but we can’t drive 5 miles to find a store that appreciates our dollars?

      We do not have to go to a dirty fish fast food place when we can fry our own fish.

      We do not have to spend hundreds of dollars to get our hair done

      We do not have to purchase the most expensive liquor, clothes, purses, shoes, homes, and cars.

      They cannot force us NOT to support black businesses.

      They cannot force us to spend 10% of our income on lottery tickets or riverboats

      They cannot force us to listen to music or watch “comedy” that degrades us.

      They cannot force us to call each other niggers, niggas, bitches, rachet hos, dawgs

      They cannot force me to choose a white man over a black man

      We are NOT POWERLESS but our behavior seems to indicate otherwise because as a group we are literally doing close to nothing other than satisfying our basic needs and ego needs

      YET we are still being tracked down and exterminated, aren’t we?

      I am not telling black people to confront the system, put their lives on the line, or to do anything extraordinary,

      I’m saying that we can change what we do as INDIVIDUALS. But FIRST we have to educate ourselves about this SYSTEM and how it works

      and that is the information that is always missing. Without that understanding, we will not be able to create effective strategies to deal with our oppression.

      Perhaps, things will have to get so bad that black people will have no alternative but to change or die. Maybe, that is the only solution

  10. Mbeti says:

    RE Trojan Pam
    “I hear what you’re saying so if I follow your logic, then the alternative to doing something (different) is doing nothing. ”
    I hear what your saying as well and my logic is not to do nothing or even directly confront the system.
    however all those things you list that the majority of black do –
    try and convince or even start talking to them about and see how far you get – its seems a good portion of black people have totally embraced self subordination and any suggestion or even hint of mere discussion is met with extreme ridicule and violence.

    I do as much as I can by myself for myself ,but its like you said earlier must black people don’t care.
    And as to constructive information on how this system works ,what little knowledge you and other black scholars provide is appreciated.

    But if it where not for my own knowledge on numerous subjects neither you nor any other black scholar ever mention, I’d be far poorer.

    I think a important area of research would be scientifically what are the exact factors and percentage of black pathology vs health.

    I large subject requiring much time and effort ,maybe I’ll find out a little more but in the meantime I’m on my own swimming upstream against all.

    • Trojan Pam says:

      @ Mbeti

      I hear you, it is frustrating. For example, the ultra-popular TV show on Fox (no less!) is the most popular black show on TV from what I hear. So out of curiousity, I watched about 5, 10 minutes and I saw a black male hugged up with a non-black male, a “sophisticated” young black male with a white wife, a black female ex-con hugging and comforting a drug addicted, tattooed white female ex-star and I said,

      what the H is this? How can so many BW watch a show where so many black males don’t want them? And where a black woman is playing mammy to a drug addicted white female?

      I can’t anymore other than I am brain trashed enough without watching something that will fry my brain cells like eggs in bacon grease.

      • Mbeti says:

        “what the H is this? How can so many BW watch a show where so many black males don’t want them? And where a black woman is playing mammy to a drug addicted white female?”

        Perhaps this is a question you should research and try to answer, although we know the reason in general specifics would probably be very helpful.

        Also another consideration – writing fiction – I noticed that the foundation of all the media I and so many others avidly consume is first produced by writers than all else follows ,even news and documentaries have writers and narratives

        I know it my seem like asking a lot but I think it is the only way we ever will and even should get our just and accurate representation in the media..

        “I can’t anymore other than I am brain trashed enough without watching something that will fry my brain cells like eggs in bacon grease.”

        Your not being very specific nor analytical and I think you can do better than that,
        Your observations in this post and the recent previous where excellent and highly insightful.

        As I can see its not your “brain being trashed” or cooked liked a breakfast food,
        oh no something far slower and less dramatic and immediate but no less important may happen to some but I doubt even you (your mind seems far to sharp)
        what would alleged to be happening is “programing and conditioning toward black hate and self hate and subservience to white albino people.

        Passivity and cooperation with one’s own oppression as well as legitimization of dominance and aggression.

        At least that’s my brief stab at it.
        anyway thank you for your response and keep up the good work.

    • Timothy says:

      Good Morning Sister Courtney. 🙂

      I have read the article. It was short, but powerful. Dave Zirin has always written articles on sport issues and controversies. We should question why the Little League Inc. would strip the players from Jackie Robinson West their title months after they won their title. The author is right to describe the brutality and the evil nature of gentrification. Gentrification not only displaces black people and the poor. It allows the 1 percent to use their corporate power to create institutions that have nothing to do with solving poverty or helping the community at all. The children from the baseball team are going through a tragedy and these children should be blamed for this situation. They won their games by their own talents and by their own merit. There are numerous double standards. Many other sports teams use sinister tactics, yet they are not caught in their actions. This team never committed financial fraud or massively injurious crimes at all. The children should receive support as we want any black person to achieve their dreams and aspirations. Thank you for showing the information. Also, there is a Black History section on the SocialistWorker webpage too.

      • Courtney H. says:

        Good Evening, Brother Timothy:

        Thank you for reading the article. I like Dave Zirin; he is very spot-on about a lot things. Anyway, I am glad that he wrote gentrification, too, because it is destroying a lot of Black communities. More and more people are becoming aware of this. He is also right about the double standards. Other teams have not been treated like this. On one of his videos, Harvey pointed out that the other two teams that lost their LL titles were also teams of color, so racism plays a huge factor here. A White team would never be humiliated like this.

        I have read the Black History section on the Socialist Worker page in the past. They have some really good articles on there.

        • Timothy says:

          OK Sister.

          Remember, the 50th anniversary of Malcolm’s assassination is coming up.

          A lot of anniversaries are coming up too like the signing of Voting Rights Act, 50 years after the rebellion of Watts, the 25 year anniversary after Nelson Mandela was freed from prison, 70 years after the end of WWII, etc.

          God Bless you Sister. 🙂

          • Courtney H. says:

            Good morning, Brother. 🙂

            It is 19 degrees outside. Yes, CBS This Morning did a segment on the 50th anniversairy of the assassination of Malcolm X and they interviewed his daughter Attalah Shabazz. They said that Malcolm X and Mike Wallace were good friends (off the record). I did not know that.

            Yes, 2015 will mark a lot of important anniversaries this year. Last week was the 25th anniversary of Nelson Mandela being released from prison. Bob Simon, who reported the release for CBS News, happened to die on that same day in a car crash in NYC. Kind of ironic, isn*t it?

            God bless you

            • Timothy says:

              Also, I have read the article that Sister Ilyasah Shabbaz (or Malcolm X’s daughter) has written.

              Her article was a critique of the Black Lives Movement. First, I had to step back and look at history (since I love history as you). Back during the late 1960’s, rebellions occurred because of racial oppression and police terrorism in our black communities. The capitalist elite later had no choice but to accept concessions. Later after Dr. King was killed, many black people decided to join the bourgeois and accept the neoliberal society (of the prison industrial complex, of economic regressive policies, of scapegoating the black poor especially, and neo-imperialism). The events of Diallo, Troy Davis, Trayvon Martin, Aiyana Jones, Michael Brown, etc. inspired the development of the Black Lives Matter movement. Many of the youth know what time it is. I am 31 and I know about why riots occur and the historical, political breakdown of many aspects of Western society. Sister Ilyasah is right to say that Malcolm X would fairly critique this new movement. Back then, Malcolm X critiqued the civil rights movement, sometimes in harsh terms. So, he would critique this current movement. He would want solutions, but he would also encourage the movement as an elder. We are fighting the system of white supremacy and Malcolm X would make that point explicitly.

              Also, another point is to be made as well. Many organizations in this current movement have outlined demands and solutions. Hands UP Coalition DC has called for the demilitarization of the local police, immediate prosecution of crooked cops, the end to the War and Drugs, and other direct proposals. Ferguson Action is one group that have specific agendas in their website and I have seen it. Many relatives of the victims of police brutality have spoken up and are part of such organizations now. This movement has very politically independent people in them (as some of them are opposed to the agendas of the Republicans and the Democrats). Malcolm X was politically independent and criticized both major parties without apology. Movements don’t have to be centralized. This movement is decentralized and has many grassroots organizing. Leadership is not necessarily centralized by a few people.

              Leaders can be ordinary human beings fighting for real social change. Ilyasah Shabbaz’s article is a great article. She has the right to her views. We can’t rely totally on slogans. Also, we should oppose imperialism as Malcolm X was anti-imperialist, he criticized capitalism, and he wanted opportunities for women. By 1965, Malcolm X was a progressive black revolutionary. Malcolm X opposed imperialism and wanted pan-African unity. So far, the Black Lives Movement (which existed spontaneously and independently) has existed longer than the Occupy. Any movement has to be critiqued. This new movement is no exception.

              We should encourage the youth, give advice, and establish strategies plus solutions.

    • Timothy says:

      Thank you for the link Sister.

      I have heard of Dumisani Washington for months. He is just wrong who believes in the false doctrine of unconditional support of Israel no matter what Israel does. No nation on Earth is perfect. Therefore, the life of a Palestinian has equal value to the life of an Israeli. Fundamentally, many Zionist extremists want to demonize any Palestinian person. Also, many of these extremists have discriminated against black people in Israel and have been caught using forced birth control against black Ethiopian Israelis too. Therefore, black people have every right to have legitimate solidarity with the oppressed, which includes the Palestinian people. I heard of John Hagee before too. I heard of him back in 1997 when I was 14 years old. He’s a famous Evangelical preacher. When he talked the crimes of the Inquisition, the Crusades, etc. years ago (done by white supremacists), then he was criticized and he is compromised. John Hagee is a puppet of the religious establishment. He’s bought and paid for. Also, years ago, John Hagee did a racist auction of people in a religious meeting. John Hagee have said xenophobic and reactionary statements for years and decades. He has a deep speaking voice. Just because we disagree with some of the policies of Israel, doesn’t mean that we’re anti-Semitic or that we hate Jewish people. Some of the strongest critics of Israeli policies have been Jewish people ironically enough. At the end of the day, all human beings deserve justice. Just because we are opposed to apartheid policies in Israel doesn’t mean that we ignore ISIS or anti-black racism done by some Arabic people. We condemn any form of anti-black racism no matter who does it. ISIS is an evil counterrevolutionary organization. White supremacy and radical Zionism are linked without question. There has been a video showing many racist Israelis issuing anti-black racial slurs in Israel that many folks don’t know about.

      Dumisani Washington is a notorious deceiver to ignore racism in Israel. Even members of the Sephardim has been discrimination in Israel before. I have studied the Middle East for a long time. Washington’s slander of Ferguson protesters is beyond the pale. I have heard of IBSI’s work on the Internet. They distort what Dr. King said on Israel. Dr. King said that he supported Israel’s right to exist, but also Dr. King said that he wanted a Marshall Plan to help the Palestinians and the other Arabic peoples in the Middle East. That Marshall Plan is what Washington ignores. I am sure that Dr. King today will never support Ethiopian Jewish people being forcibly given birth control, of checkpoints in Palestine, or segregated buses in Israel based on ethnicity (which exists now). Dr. King was opposed to any form of segregation. IBSI talks about Rustin, but Rustin heavily demonized Malcolm X. Also, Rustin later refused to explicitly criticized the Vietnam War and he supported the contrived Cold War. Rustin was right to oppose racism, but he later allied with Western imperial interests.

      Robert Wilkes’ article is racist and a disgrace. The Ferguson protesters don’t want nihilism. They want justice. They want an end to the militarization of the local police. They want an end to police brutality and racial profiling. They want economic justice and they are angry at the system. We all have a God-given right to show indignant anger at the system. It is very taboo, even in our generation, to critique Zionism (as sites have been banned and people have been harassed for even criticizing Zionism in public). As for us, we will not back down. We want peace not apartheid in the Middle East.

      The events of Ferguson have been supported by people worldwide. The heroic protesters of Ferguson have shown courage. We advocate not only Black Unity, but Black Liberation. We want unity of all peoples of black African descent globally.

      • Courtney H. says:

        You are welcome, Brother Timothy.

        I was reading Mondoweiss earlier today and one of the commenters posted the link in the comments section. I have heard of John Hagee. He is a racist and an extremist. I believe that during the 2008 campaign, he backed John McCain and said along the lines of then-Senator Obama being anti-American (Rudy Giulani said that about President Obama recently. Racist b*stard!). Anyway, I had not heard of Dumisani Washington until I read the article. That is why I posted it. This guy is crazy! He is nothing but a coon! And Robert Wilkes is a flat-out white supremacist!

        I agree with what you said about Israel, Palestine, and the Middle East. People who attack those who criticize Israeli government policies toward the Palestinians and the Black Hebrew Israelis as anti-Semites has gotten old, and it is really starting to turn people off. I am glad that you brought up the hyprocrisy of ISIS/ISIL and Black-on-Black crime and other violence. If we are going to condemn one kind of violence, we need to criticize all kinds of violence. It is racist and a double standard to do otherwise.

        • Timothy says:

          You’re Welcome Sister.

          I agree with all of your words.

          Yes, Rudy’s comments about the President are inappropriate, inaccurate, and ignorant. Dumisani Washington has been brainwashed by the lies of white supremacy. Hagee is a notorious racist as you have said.

          God Bless You.

    • Timothy says:

      Hello Sister Courtney. 🙂

      The story about black people in Hawaii is not well known by many people, so it is a positive thing that the link showed the contributions of black people in Hawaii. It is obvious that racism is everywhere and Hawaii is no exception. Although, black people in Hawaii are still fighting for justice and equality like anyone else has the right to fight for. The story of Sister Carlotta Stewart should be known. Her parents were strong black people (he father was active in the civil rights struggle. Thomas McCants was a strong black man who cared for his family. This is what Black Love is all about), and she promoted not only education, but dignity for humanity. I hope that the Senate Bill 194 will pass. Hawaii has a beautiful landscape and a wonderful climate. The article did a great job of listing books and other resources that people can have access to as a means for them to delve into further research of black people in Hawaii. We all send great Kudos to Professor Kathryn Waddell Takara and others who want to show the world the history of black people in Hawaii. Carlotta Stewart surfing is great as surfing is an excellent sport, it can improve human health, and it is still popular worldwide. I wish the best for the actions of Surf Sistah too. The young African American women surfers from Claremont University should be respected too. These Sisters surfing can inspire other black people to follow their dreams and aspirations as well. The self-determination, the thinking, and the intellect of black men and black woman should be respected. We learn new information all of the time and this is the first time that I knew about Carlotta Stewart. Carlotta was a strong black woman.

      RIP Carlotta Stewart.

      • Courtney H. says:

        Hello, Brother Timothy.

        I didn’t know much about Black people in Hawai’i until last year, when I read an article about Mary Augusta Ball, who is mentioned in the article that I posted about Carlotta Stewart (RIP). This is a very interesting article, too. It’s nice to learn about the Surf Sistahs. I agree that the article provides good sources for viewers to learn more information. I am glad that Dr. Kathryn Waddell Takara has made this effort to bring attention to the history of Black people in Hawai’i as well. I also hope the Senate Bill 194 passes

        Here is an article about Ava Duvernay:

        Enjoy! 😀

        • Timothy says:

          Good Afternoon Sister Courtney. 🙂

          I have read the interview of Ava Duvernay.

          She is a strong director and her words were honest and introspective, because she talked about her experience. She was eloquent in her responses and the movie Selma (regardless of how people feel about it) should inspire all of us to fight for real social change. The events of Selma should be studied and we ought to know about the Selma movement. The DCVL, the SCLC, and SNCC were part of the movement. SNCC was the more radical group while the SCLC was more center-left. The NAACP was more moderate back then. Many people shed blood and died for the human rights that we take for granted. Some of our rights have been threatened by reactionary forces (as the Supreme Court has gutted parts of the Voting Rights Act). 50 years have passed since the massive protests of Selma, but still we are not free. We are not free from racial discrimination and police brutality. We are not free from economic injustice and other neoliberal policies. Therefore, we can never be free unless all of humanity is free. In this situation, we have to have hope and a revolutionary consciousness. We know about the prison industrial complex and other evils. God Almighty would us to know about these things and to fight evil. When we express not only indignant anger at oppression, but when we use our compassion to build people up, then glorious contributions can come about.

          It is important to study. We have to study about our history and politics. We must organize and mobilize in independent organizations who want solutions and we have to help our people, especially in our own communities. In that sense, we know for sure that we made a difference. Selma represented the end of the first era of the modern day civil rights movement (which was from 1955 to 1965). Afterwards, more people have seen the complexities of our situation. I believe in self-determination. Even Dr. King believed in self-determination. Also, Malcolm X supported the Selma movement in 1965, but he rejected the unconditional following of nonviolence. Nonviolence is a tactic and it’s a strategy which can be legitimately used. Likewise, there is nothing immoral about self-defense either. I wish the best for Sister Ava Duvernay. She is right that LBJ should not be deified. When he was a Congressman, LBJ voted for pro-segregationist legislation. He passed the Voting Rights Act, because he knew that it was infeasible to call America a democracy when fellow people were deprived of voting rights (and when black people were treated as second class citizens. LBJ supported ruthless imperialism overseas as well). I agree with the Voting Rights Act, but people need bread to eat, a house to live, and their economic rights maintained.

          So, we carry on.

          Yes, I have enjoyed the interview. 🙂

          • Courtney H. says:

            Good morning, Brother Timothy. 🙂

            You’re welcome, and thank you for reading the interview. It was very interesting. Ava Duvernay is indeed a strong Black woman. She has a bright future as a director. I am glad she standing by her views about the movie, and is not listening to her detractors. We need to study our history, especially on our own, since most of what is taught in history classes is BS. Looking at many different kinds of sources is very important to learning.

            Both Dr. King and Malcolm X has a lot more in common than most people believe. Dr. Umar Johnson has said numerous times that the reason why they were being killed is because the government didn’t want them to get together to help Black people. However, they are still remembered and revered.

            • Timothy says:

              Good Morning Sister Courtney 🙂

              I agree with you 100 percent. Malcolm X and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. did have more things in common than folks realize. Both men agreed with opposing the Vietnam War, both wanted the black community to pull resources together (as a way for our community to grow), both opposed the propaganda from the mainstream corporate run media, and both loved black people. Also, we have to continue to be conscious. The black conscious community is still here and it is not going anyway. Not to mention that we have always believe in the dignity of black woman. There is no liberation and freedom in our people without the liberation of all black women. Black men deserve liberation and freedom as well. We will continue to fight against the system of white supremacy. We both wish the best for Ava Duvernay.

              • Courtney H. says:

                Good evening, Brother Timothy. 🙂

                I do not have to add to what you have said, because I agree with everything that you have said. I agree that we wish for the best for Sister Ava Duvernay.

  11. Shanequa says:

    @ Trojan Pam, Courtney H & Timothy as well as other commenters.
    I have notice many conscious black women I have talked too are having trouble finding decent black men. Its bad enough if we dated outside our race, but its black women that are in their late thirties who wont to have families but can’t find decent black men to start families with. We have heard we can find good black men at the our jobs, social events and etc. but we are still not finding them anywhere. What should black women do who want to have children & start families, because their second option is to produce a family with a non black men which many don’t want to do but they do want children. Especially when these black women are in their mid to late thirties.

    • Timothy says:

      Hello Sister Shanequa.

      I understand your points and your points are legitimate. Many people do have difficulty in dating others. One of the reasons is because of the economic recession (including tensions). Many women do have difficulty in finding an upright black man. I am a man, so I don’t believe in forcing anybody on their dating or romance choices. That is their personal choice. I do believe in Black Love and the growth of black families. One advice is for conscious black men and conscious black women to form voluntary meetings where they can talk about issues and friendships can be formed. Then later on, romantic relationships can develop between these black men and black women. Another piece of advice is for people to meet with people with similar interests, personalities, and goals in life (Many black couples who became married were in similar occupations or they had similar goals in life). I do believe that people can talk to their friends about where eligible people are located. There are certainly decent black single men all across America from urban, suburban, and rural communities. Also, there is nothing wrong with a black person dating or marrying a black person overseas either. Who says that love is limited by nationality. It is not.

      I know that many black American women have married African men (or black people of black African descent who aren’t Americans). I know many black American men who have married African women (or black people of black African descent who aren’t Americans) too. We are over one billion in our world population. If all of that fails, then a Sister has to do what a Sister has to do. I’m not a hater. That is a Sister’s business. At the end of the day, a black woman deserves to be appreciated as a human being and she has to right to execute her own voluntary choices in her life. We also have to build black people up in the community though. More of that can strengthen the bonds between black people of both genders. Regardless, we have to love black people since we can’t be free unless we appreciate who we are (We are the first people on Earth, we have beautiful melanin, and we are descendants of courageous, strong ancestors).

      Black women like Courtney and Trojan Pam can give you excellent advice as well. These are strong Black women.

  12. Shanequa says:

    @ Timothy that is a great response, and I appreciate your comment. I’m about to be turning 31 years old next month. I just find it hard to find someone that share the same interest that I do. I spent most of my time in the library reading books especially about black history, biography, sociology and exercising. I love engaging in conversations that has me thinking. I usually don’t go out much nor do I go to clubs or movies. Sometimes I find it difficult relating to people my age. Even when I was in college I studied, read books and kept to myself because I couldn’t relate to other people.

    The dating game hasn’t been great for me period the first date I had was with a man who was 31 years old, who had two children that were 5 & 8 years old by different women. We barely had a actual phone conversation because he spent his time texting me most of the time. I really don’t care for texting, I’m more like call me just to tell me what you need. Since I wasn’t texting him much he told me, “he doesn’t have time chancing women.” Another man I dated, I met through a coworker I really wasn’t interested in him especially when he had both of his nibbles & belly button pierce. On top of that he barely kept his self presentable, so we just ended.

    People be surprise when they find out I have never had a boyfriend & still a virgin. I’m not trying to be stuck up, but I strongly believe you just can’t lay down with anyone. I have come a cross to many single black men & women with children that ended their relationships with their partner because of certain situations. Even when I do come across what seems to be decent black men on the job withier they are foreign black men or not they try to flirt with me when they know they have a girlfriend or wife at home. When I’m at work I dress business causal nor do I wear provocative clothing.

    • Courtney H. says:

      Good evening, Sister Shenequa. 🙂

      You are not being stuck up. You should have high standards for yourself. Being a virgin at 31 is nothing to be ashamed of, especially when you have so many people having multiple partners and multiple kids and no marriage. There are a lot of good Black men out there. You can find them at work, in church (yes, I’m a church girl), on Black dating sites (though I’m wary of dating sites of various crimes), in the gym, or some place out of the blue (like a park). Relationships cannot be forced. When people are out “on the prowl” that is forcing a relationship. Things should be allowed to happen naturally. If you do meet someone interesting, let it take place step by step slowly. Things will continue on their own from there.

      I can’t add anything else. I hope that this was helpful advice.

    • Timothy says:

      I’m sorry about the experiences that you had. You are very intelligent and you seem to have an old soul vibe. I am 31 years old now. Maybe, you can date someone 2-5 years older than you. You seem to relate to people older than you Sister Shanequa. One problem, in my spirit, is that many men don’t know how to communicate or relate to a woman in a higher level. Some folks have ego and seek social gratification when the Universal principle of balance should be followed. The mentality of exploiting and mistreating women is a serious problem in our community. It is never your responsibility to teach a man on how to be a man. It’s the man’s responsibility to respect his own manhood. So, if a relationship is not going to work, then ending that relationship is best. Any human being should learn to respect themselves, then that person can respect others. It is obvious that you should never be harassed or disrespected by anyone.

      Also, never give up. You deserve happiness and it should be based on your terms (not anyone else’s).

  13. Shanequa says:

    @ Courtney H & Timothy thank you both. Timothy I believe you are correct when you mention about me having a old soul vibe. But most of that old soul vibe comes from my parents & especially my grandparents the way I was rise.

  14. Courtney H. says:

    Here is an interesting article about a little-known sistah:

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