Are “Black Movies” A Prediction of Our Future?

Posted: January 23, 2015 in Uncategorized


12 years a slave

While we spend MILLIONS of black dollars on Hollywood movies, like The Butler, The Help, 12 Years a Slave, Django Unchained, Red Tails, the Equalizer, and now Selma — where black degradation and passive resistance to white oppression are celebrated and ENCOURAGED…

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Selma movie

do not fall for the white supremacist hype

Most of us have NEVER stopped and asked ourselves three critical questions:

1.  Why are we trusting white supremacist Hollywood to teach us AND our children about our own HISTORY? The same history the same people LIE ABOUT in our history books?

2. Would the white people who control Hollywood allow black filmmakers to make movies about white OR Jewish History?  (I think we all know the answer to that question).

3.  What is the REAL message behind these REVISIONIST films?

the helpHollywood is the land of white supremacy

Most “black films” produced by Hollywood fall into three categories:

1.  Black people serving, sexing, saving, and sacrificing their lives for white people (never other black people) like the VAST majority of Denzel and Morgan Freeman movies. This includes fighting overseas for “freedom and justice” and receiving none when returning home.

aka black mammy men


 2.  Black people harming other black people (the VAST majority of the few Hollywood movies that actually show black males and females sexually involved)

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3.  Black BUFFOONERY, especially on the part of black males wearing wigs and dresses, playing the sidekicks of white males, or made up to look like white females.


do not fall for the white supremacist lies

I believe black people during segregation would have seen the problem with at least some of these movies, especially the ones with black degradation as the THEME, but most of the black people I encounter — and I can only speak from MY experiences — don’t seem to care EVEN when the racism/black degradation angle is pointed out to them.

The reactions I get when I mention these problems is largely dismissive. NOR do they seem to care that in nearly EVERY black movie produced by Hollywood within the last three years

FOREIGN BORN BLACKS are playing the lead roles while the vast majority of American-born black actors and actresses remain UNEMPLOYED.

This is NOT about blaming foreign born blacks for the RACISM being practiced against american-born black actors and actresses. Foreign-born blacks have no more control than the man on the moon over WHO gets a role in a movie and who doesn’t.

Anymore than the black producers and directors control the movies that bear their names. The white people who control Hollywood also control THEM — as I detailed in an earlier post:

Is “Lee Daniels’ The Butler” (Really) A “Black Movie?”

However, all blacks inside AND outside the movie industry should be asking ourselves:

What is the REAL MESSAGE behind the trend of slavery and segregation movies? And HOW is it connected to the RISING UNEMPLOYMENT RATE among blacks and the INCREASE in police brutality/murder against black victims who were born here, most of who descended from slaves?

Is OUR REAL FUTURE in an evolving white supremacy system being presented AS fictional and “historical” entertainment on the silver screen?

Keep in mind that in 1865, the 13th Amendment was adopted to the United States Constitution officially abolishing slavery…

except as punishment for a crime.

which means that blacks who are incarcerated have NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS — except those that the system CHOOSES to give them — and that they are RIPE for economic exploitation at 90 CENTS AN HOUR — the same way AFRICAN SLAVES were economically exploited in exchange for food and shelter.


The articles below seem to indicate —  similar to the THEME of most “black” movies today — that somebody or something is certainly GUNNING FOR OUR “BLACK TAILS” to be BACK in the old-fashioned-style of SLAVERY.

1.  Texas Is Throwing People In Jail For Failing To Pay Back Predatory Loans


(Black people represent a disproportionate number of PayDay borrowers).

2.  Fair Or Foul??? Tennessee Passes Law Imprisoning Women Up To 15 Years For Doing Drugs While Pregnant

When you read the comments on this article from other black people it seems as though they believe this law has absolutely, positively NOTHING to do with them. It’s as thought we are literally black bodies with a white chip in our brain computers…

The Hollywood propaganda machine which works overtime to completely bamboozle and ramp up anti-blackness among the black collective should pat themselves on the back for a JOB WELL DONE.

  1. […] Most of us have NEVER stopped and asked ourselves two critical questions:  read more […]

    • thollomn says:

      I’ve been following you all for YEARS, and I have almost all of your books. You guys speak the truth on everything. I’ve been following the “founder” of this site “crammasters” for years even when he was on black voices and black planet. HOWEVER, I now know the reason as to why blacks are suffering/have suffered the way that they have. It’s because were are the real JEWS, and are under CURSES from the most high GOD. Yup, that’s right! Blacks( only the ones that have been scattered throughout the 4 corners of the earth via slavery) are under curses! It’s got something to do with our ancestors. Our ancestors REBELLED against YAHWEH hundreds of years ago! and so he delivered us into the hands of our enemies, and they took us captive and scattered us throughout the 4 corners of the earth just like it says in the book of DEUTERONOMY. You all need to read the book of DEUTERONOMY. That whole book is about us. we are the only group of people that fit all the curses in there. White folks knew about GOD”S wrath being on us. and they just were throwing it in our faces! This is something the LORD has revealed to MANY of his people. It won’t stop until he say enough is enough. HOWEVER a time is coming, when he will reveal to the WHOLE world as to whom we are. PRAISE GOD!

      • Cheryl says:

        While i applaud your understanding of the nature of White supremacy, I will ask if you have knowledge of the Council of Nicea and what and why it was brought together. As a person who was raised under a pulpit (in church since I was 7 years old) I have to question why God would curse the parents of humanity and then have another group of people who we taught civilization to oppress us. If He is as good as He is we have to ask the difficult questions and look at the answers which are hidden. As Black people we have to ask the questions and come to the conclusion that no one will save us but us. We have to turn off all the things that are distracting us and be about the business of re claiming our humanity as the world is self destructing in its present condition. Much love.

        • Trojan Pam says:

          @ Cheryl

          No, I do not have knowledge of the Council of Nicea. I’ll have to check that out.

          I agree, no one will save us but us, and that is purpose behind the work that I do, to help break the chains of DEPENDENCY on someone else — a white savior, the church, President Obama, etc in the hopes that someone will do for us what we MUST do for ourselves.

          • Timothy says:

            The Council of Nicea was formed in 325 A.D. It was when many church bishops discussed about the Nature of Christ. The Council members believed that Christ was divine and that he was the only begotten Son of God. In other words, the Council of Nicea codified much of the mainstream Christian doctrine. Those in the council opposed Arian theology. The Nicene Creed sums up much of mainstream Christian religious doctrine. All of this took place when Constantine I was the Roman Emperor. You can do your own research too.

  2. Mo Rodgers says:

    Come on. Who owns Hollywood? What do you expect…to be treated as equals? Ain’t gonna happen.
    U dance to the music you pay the piper.

    • Trojan Pam says:

      @ Mo Rodgers

      I don’t expect anything from Hollywood but I realize in every movie they make there is white supremacy programming and that too many black people aren’t taking it seriously and do not protect our children from these destructive messages and imagery.

    • Alicia says:

      What I can’t for the life of me understand is WHY there is no formidable, thriving BLACK media? What’s wrong with those who have the power to do it.. why haven’t/don’t they? The media has been used for so long against us and as a tool to keep hate against us alive.

      Where are the black newspapers that don’t focus on racism but on news which is important to our lives? Besides Tyler Perry and others, where is the “black media base”? why on the Steve Harvey radio show and other ‘black’ shows do they regurgitate the same crap mainstream media does? i respect Steve Harvey however have to change the radio station anytime the news segment comes on. it literally focuses on crime done by black males and mainstream crap. it’s disgusting and disappointing. Doesn’t the black lady that reads off the news ever notice what she’s doing? arghhh

      Until we have an established black media, we will never be able to look forward to quality black shows or movies.

      • Trojan Pam says:

        @ Alicia

        I believe part of the reason is black people do not understand the system we are in and we have not overcome our slave mindset.

        Another reason is we talk big game about black empowerment but most of us do not support other black people OR black businesses UNLESS it involves alcohol (bars) and eating (storefront restaurants).

        As far as having more black media that takes MONEY from SPONSORS and most of us are not in a position to advertise on black media because

        1) we squander what little resources we have on material things and bad hobbies, like gambling, drugging, and lottery playing
        2) we do not own enough black businesses to support even ONE TV network as the sponsors of it. There are more black churches in america than black businesses.
        3) we do not like each other enough to TRULY support black entrepreneurial efforts. In fact, we are more likely to sabotage it due to our own insecurities and jealousies and anti-blackness

        Now, some will think my answer is harsh but can they honestly say that black people support each other? I believe there are those who do but they are NOT the majority

        Until we reduce/eliminate our anti-blackness nothing will change for us.

        • Phazex says:

          Trojan Pam? You are “a breath of fresh air and spot on!” Yesterday was my first day on this site and you can believe that I plan to continue returning again and again!

          I am DEFINITELY going to spread news of this site amongst family, comrades, friends, educators, etc.

          Ya know? A few months ago I was beginning to think that, “maybe, as black people, we ARE doomed.” Thank you SO MUCH for the jump-start in making me again, realize that yes, our people and generations after us CAN be saved. Spirit, thank you for leading me to this site!


      • Trojan Pam says:

        @ Alicia

        A black media requires MONEY from business sponsors who can afford to advertise in magazines, radio and TV. Think about Jet and Ebony. Who were their main sponsors? WHITE CORPORATE AMERICA.

        some of the reasons we can’t afford it is

        1. our squandering of money on horrible hobbies like drinking, partying, gambling and lottery playing
        2. we don’t own enough businesses and the businesses we own seldom grow beyond a single storefront or office.
        3. We invest more in our churches than we invest in businesses and most churches don’t advertise
        4. Black people talk BIG GAME about black empowerment but seldom follow thru due to our own insecurities and anti-blackness.

        Until we address all the above, NOTHING will change.

      • Phazex_Female says:

        @ Alicia:

        I think that the answer to your questioning is that many of these so-called celebrities, entertainers, etc. DO NOT WANT TO OFFEND THEIR WHITE MASTERS. Many are only illustrating what the “mainstream” mass media does. So the question begs, are these selected “few” REALLY helping the black masses? I think not.


  3. Courtney H. says:

    @ Trojan Pam:

    Thank you for this very informative article! A lot of what you say in this article is what I have been thinking about, too.

    In fact, earlier today I was thinking about the fact that in **Twelve Years a Slave** and **Selma**, the lead Black actors are foreign-born. I am glad that I am not the only one noticing this.

    In this podcast, Tariq Nasheed discusses the white supremacy behind the movies **Black or White** and **Selma**:

    And in this podcast, Tariq talks about the white supremacy being promoted in the movie **American Sniper** and the coonery on the TV series **Empire**:

    I read both of the articles. That is crazy! I read some of the comments on the Tennessee article. You are right — some Black people are drinking the Kool-Aid of white supremacy hook, line and sinker.

    Speaking of Tennessee, I remember reading an article on Ankhesen Mie and Field Negro*s blogs about a state law passed that would take away welfare benefits from parents whose children fared poorly in school. I found this article about this law on this blog:

    Here is an article about what Chris Rock has to say about Hollywood:

    From different directions, we are under attack.

  4. Trojan Pam says:

    @ Courtney H.

    I agree, we are under relentless attack and I think we are FEELING it but instead of moving us to protect our communities and families it has driven us DEEPER into DENIAL and anti-blackness, as though, by throwing each other under the white bus, we will somehow be provided more safety.

    I also heard that one of the states (I forget which) is proposing legislation to take food stamps from anyone who is using drugs. What people fail to think about (in my opinion) is WHO is BRINGING the drugs into our communities? And frankly, I strongly suspect that if being drug-free was a requirement for employment or benefits that the House AND the Senate and the White House, and most state and city legislature bodies and corporate offices would be be vacant.

    This entire nation is drug addicted, be it alcohol, reefer, hard drugs, prescription drugs or sexual addictions and perversions. And the majority of people who would suffer from a loss of food stamps are CHILDREN.

    We have to be very, very suspicious of any blanket attacks on poor people, because the REAL target is ALWAYS us. Always. And to see so many black people, many of who, I bet are struggling with their own mental issues, come down so hard on drug-addicted soon-to-be mothers who could be facing hard time for an illness, is frankly, sickening.

    Thanks for providing the links, I’ll check them out.

    • Courtney H. says:

      @ Trojan Pam:

      I agree with all of your comments. As for the links, you are welcome.

    • anonymous says:

      I think you are talking about Scott Walker the governor of Wisconsin. I am not sure if he is using this as a distraction to focus people elsewhere while he is doing something else or what. Without saying too much a brief Google search should provide plenty of insight into his character.

  5. Timothy says:

    The law causing pregnant women to be prison who have drug addiction problems for up to 15 years is outright fascist.

    Hollywood since its origin has shown its evil fruits. There can be no good fruit from a rotten tree and the roots of Hollywood has been rotten from the beginning. We do have to look at the underlying agendas behind many movies and shows, so we can figure out the plans of the establishment.

    Our history doesn’t begin with the Maafa. It stretches thousands of years before the Maafa. That is why we have to reject revisionism and learn about our real history.

    Certainly, the white supremacy system wants black people to serve white elites instead of us creating of our sense of independence. These fascist laws in Arkansas, Tennessee, etc. are outright attempts to target the black community (especially poor black Americans). The establishment wants to deny the humanity of black people while they ignore or minimize the brutality and barbarism of white racism.

    Therefore, we have to understand our great worth as black people, care for our people, and act accordingly.

    • Trojan Pam says:

      @ Timothy

      It is facist, which just another face of racism/white supremacy. Our behavior collectively in the face of rising racism will have consequences. I don’t know what it will take to make us realize we are ALL in this together, that it doesn’t matter how much education or money or status you think you have, if you are black you are still a n*gger. That is a bottom line FACT

      • Timothy says:

        Exactly Sister Trojan Pam.

        There is no time to be around the bus. We, as black people, are in a war for our survival literally. We are on black people regardless if we live in America or Brazil. That is why I have been studying the African Diaspora in a higher level in the past few years. Our people need organize and build up our own institutions independently. We not only need economic and political power. That’s a given. We also need to grow our consciousness since the white supremacy system by its definition tries to promote dysfunction and evil all of the time. Evil people don’t sleep on their promotion of evil. That is why goodness has to be more promoted and black unity is so important.

        • Alicia says:

          Brazil and Latin America are heavily black. I can’t understand why we as a race are not more self-sufficient and less vulnerable. We are still soo vulnerable to anti-black racism that it’s not even funny. ;( *sigh*

          • Timothy says:

            You’re right Sister Alicia. There are tons of black people living in Latin America, the Caribbean, South America, etc. The Afro-Brazilian Sister Benedita da Silva is a great hero who is standing up for black people. Marisandra Layla (an Afro-Brazilian Sister) who is 31 years old is another freedom fighter too. That is why UNITY is so important. UNITY can create more power for us as one black people. There is nothing wrong with Power as long as it is used correctly. We need more economic and political collaborations among all black people of the Earth. Self-determination, self-reliance, and true liberation are great concepts for anyone to embrace. We have to continue to form strategies as a way for us to fight back against racism. The good news is that we are here, we are alive, and we have the power to make ourselves free. We have to keep on going and love justice.

  6. Shanequa says:

    @Trojan Pam
    While our people are being entertain & living in a fantasy world we are living in the New Jim Crow. Movies like the “The Help”, “Selma”, “12 Years a Slave” & others are getting white America prepared for bringing back the good old Jim Crow days. Just look how open they are for being racist toward blacks. Being docile & ignorant with no standards as well as having no morals of knowledge of our history have been acceptable in the black community. No wonder why we have shows like “Scanda,” “How To Get Away With Murder,” “Empire,” “Power”, & etc showing us at our lowest point.
    Look at the massive police bruality of black people especially our black men getting wounded or killed on camera unarmed by the police. All the evidence is on camera showing the police officers being aggressive to our people but no charges are brought upon the cop. The high unemployment rate of black men & women and even our young black teenagers can’t find job. Dr. Claude Anderson even stated that in the next twenty years black people will be braggers in this country especially when we aren’t nation building. The mexicans have replace us in alot of low & high paying jobs. Marcus Garvey even stated that the negro will be replace by foreigners. In the devils hell in the United States laws are being change as we speak that is not going to help blacks people period. Now we have to pay taxes for not having health insurance, filing for next years tax season we want able to claim our children which alot of black people are looking for that extra tax season money.
    The director Lee Daniels a black male & open homosexual just recently stated the black community needs to become more acceptable to homosexual lifestyle. He’s now directing a new television show name “Empire” comes on Wednesday night on the Fox network. Out of my whole 30 years of living “Empire” as a black television is the most degrading black show I have seen. All the messages in the show is complete dys-fucking-funtional. You have the mother & father manipulating their own children to complete against each other of being who will be the top artist which is going to lead them to turning against each other eventually. Both the parents showing their hate for each other infront of their children. The children are fully a ware of their parents hate for each other. You have the oldest son manipulating his parents & siblings to get control of his father’s company. The oldest son is married to a white woman & have sexual relations with other race of women. Just by looking at the show the oldest son only have sexual relations with his white wife & a non black hispanic woman. The middle son which is a homosexual is in a relationship with a non black hispanic man. The only son thats in a relationship or at least date a biracial or light to dark skinned black women is him. We have black own black violent crimes on the show. There is no real loving black couples relationship or families because its all dysfunctional. None of the characters on the show are mentally stable. But the homosexual lifestyle will be heavy played out in this show. It’s only been 3 episodes by me looking at the trailer for the next show the youngest son girlfriend is going to be in a lesbian relationship with a white woman that might be the oldest son wife. Rather you are a biracial, light to dark skinned black man or woman everyone is being ran over by the bus.
    P.S. I notice with a lot of African actors & actresses from the UK coming to America for movie roles. Most of the women be biracial & the man be a dark skinned black male. Its already not enough movie roles for black American actors & actresses now white Hollywood is starting a faud between the UK black actors & Actress & America black actors & actresses

    • Courtney H. says:

      @ Shanequa:

      Your comments (especially the ones about **Empire**) are spot-on. I posted these two videos about **Empire** on another post. If you have not watched them, here they are. They both provide a lot of interesting information:

    • Beautiful comments! Very well stated! Nothing I can add to that!

    • Alicia says:

      YIKES about the “Empire” show. but what do we expect/

      I also found it weird that an african or british man played MLK. Idris Elba as Mandela recently was great!

    • Trojan Pam says:

      @ Shanequa

      I agree with what you said but unfortunately, most black people either do not notice or do not care about the imagery.
      I don’t think we’re aware that this programming gets into our psyches and alters our thinking and behavior

  7. Shanequa says:

    @ Trojan Pam
    Back in the 1980’s during the crack era they were throwing women in jail for having crack in their system while pregnant. Some states were making these women choose jail time or sterilization. Its the same game plan what Tennessee laws are doing nothing has change. Also I was watching the news a couple of weeks ago in my city the local health clinics for low income families are closing down this year. They have already started cutting back on wic a couple of years ago, the next step is welfare. Even though its mostly whites on welfare many whites feel if they cut back on welfare funds it will hurt black people. But end the end the whites who are on welfare doesn’t realize it will effect them too. Don’t forget medicade some doctors don’t accept that health plan either. Some states are trying to legalize marijuana but this is another game plan to put black people in jail especially when the states are going to make laws stating you have to have a certain amount of marijuana in your system. On top of that they are trying to make laws to stop men from doing street harassment to women.

    • Trojan Pam says:

      @ Shanequa

      The war against black people is ramping up, coming in many disguises that make it appear that whites are equally endangered but in reality, whites often have access to secret programs that blacks and non-whites do not have access to or knowledge of. The poor whites that are hurt are simply collateral damage. But the main target is black people.

  8. OriginalWoman13 says:

    @ TrojanPam

    I’m not going to lie, what we are facing as a people in this country as well as globally is becoming more and more frighting. I can tell you from experience (I’m sure all of us go through it) how hard it is to try to get Black people to see what is going on in the media and in real life.There is just this great refusal to see the truth and you come to one simple conclusion that MANY of us will not make it.

    This post certainly hits close to home with me because I am a college graduate student (graduated in 2013) and is currently looking for a job but haven’t found one yet. I gotta a lotta college debt and don’t know what to do. I’ve been out of a job for years because I had to go to school and raise my daughter (which was very hard). You know the recession didn’t help us all either. If it wasn’t for my daughter’s father who is a great father and man and the option of online schooling, I don’t know how I would have made it thus far. I’m finding out that it takes more than a degree to land a job; they want you to have experience plus some certifications. While I’m looking for employment I’m volunteering and getting me some continuing education so that will increase my chances of finding work. This is what I am told. I did get some job offers, but they are not in my geographical area and I’m unable to relocate at this time.

    In addition, I’m also a victim of a predatory lender. These people (now in the hands of a collection agency) sometimes call me asking for a payment in which I don’t have the money to pay (because I’m unemployed) and they get nasty (and threatening) with you when you try to tell them your situation, hell they don’t even listen. Now I’ve seen a couple stories on the news of people who have had trouble with nasty,attitudinal collection agents and ended up taking these people to court ending in the company firing the agent and they paying their debt as best as they can without the threats and attitudes. I decided if I have to I will take that action. smh. I’m just doing what I need to do to make it and talking to the ancestors to help me out of this situation, sis.

    • Sorry to hear about that sis. You’ll find a job soon. Keep your head up and keep pushing. Never lose faith. It’ll come in due time. 🙂

    • Trojan Pam says:

      @ OriginalWoman13

      I wish I could be more optimistic but I have to agree with you. The world is changing fast and we can’t count on the mainstream media to tell us the truth.

      I’m sorry to hear about your difficulties. Unfortunately, more and more people, especially black people, will have to employ ourselves. I recommend that people get skills that will allow them to work for themselves if they have to.

      Hang in there and do the best you can and consider real businesses — not those multi-level marketing schemes — your skills may be best for.

      • TheOriginalBlackWoman13 says:

        @ TrojanPam

        I have been thinking about starting my own business in the near future. I have a lot of good skills acquired as a person with 2 degrees. As a mother of a special needs child I need work/life balance. I noticed how a lot of these employers are selfish and don’t wanna give people a break based on their situation. I read that mothers of special needs children make 56% less than mothers with non-special needs children or are in poverty because employers are not empathetic towards there situation. Another article I read discussed a mother of a special needs child who sued a company for not hiring her. They said she wouldn’t be able to work because her child is special needs. They see mothers like us as liabilities. Families with special needs children and adults gotta eat too. That’s discrimination. For me that is scary and sad. A male friend was telling me about how his daughter stayed out of work for a year cause she was sick. Now she is trying to get back into the workforce and a potential employer was talking shit cause she stayed outta work for a year, not caring about the fact that she did so cause she was sick. smdh.

        Looking at all the bleak statistics and rising white hostility I believe that Black People will be FORCED to ditch the self-pity, self-hatred and start working together as we did before integration. Either that or go hungry waiting for white people.

        • Trojan Pam says:

          @ TheOriginalBlackWoman13

          It is sad that this society is so anti-family (although it pretends otherwise).

          Starting a business is an excellent idea and I would suggest you start it while you’re working and do it on a shoestring until you gain experience and customers. Also, I’ve noticed that a lot of black people start businesses without finding out what people really need instead of what we like to do.

          Times are getting harder and more and more people are going to be focused on their needs, not their wants. For example, selling jewelry might not be the best idea but selling a product or services that people really need might be more successful.

          I agree, I think black people are being pushed into a corner economically and that white racism is on the rise, and the sad thing is some are more focused on getting “sexual variety” than building a future for themselves or their people. Our ancestors are surely rolling over in their graves.

  9. Shanequa says:

    You are not alone in having a college degree trying to find a job. I just recently got a full time job after nine years of graduating college. Most of the jobs I’ve been working were part-time. I have been on many interviews but no call backs. My cousin who has a masters degree just recently got a full time job an she graduated college back in 2008. I know many more black college graduates that are out of work. I have a friend that has a bachelors degree was working at a grocery store because it was becoming more hard for to find work. She was also a single mother trying to provide for her child. The high unemployment rate is hurting black men & women with or without degrees. I also notice a lot of black college graduates are accepting jobs they are over qualified because they can’t find work.

  10. Check out this sista’s blog. She has a good review on the show Empire. Be sure to subscribe and support her blog. She has some very informative posts on racism.

  11. Shanequa says:

    @ Courtney H & Kushite Prince thanks for the information.

  12. Courtney H. says:

    This is a little OT, but it has to do with white supremacy and racist double standards in the mainstream news media:

    • Timothy says:

      Thank you for showing the video Sister Courtney.

      The speaker is right in mentioning that the mainstream media shows double standards involving crime. Many white people who comment heinous crimes like robbery across state lines, etc. are giving much more sympathy than black people who committed the exact same crimes. It is part of the hypocrisy of the system of white supremacy. The post-racial extremists claim that racism doesn’t exist, but studies document the racial disparities in the criminal justice system and the huge discrimination found in employment market. Black children in society are readily demonized. Black children are punished more harshly in the public school system than white children even if they are punished for the same offense. Readily, white crime is more explained by the mainstream media in more complex terms (in dealing with mental illness, socioeconomic factors, etc.). Black people who commit crimes are readily explained in more simplistic, adversarial terms than non-blacks who committed the same crimes.

      The story of the people from Kentucky documents another example of the double standard. These criminals robbed people across state lines. They were arrested without major incident. Black people, who committed much less offenses than these two, have been throw to the ground (by the cops) and guns put on them by the police all of the time. The speaker is telling the truth on that point. The biggest thugs in our generation are the multinational corporations damaging Nature, funding the military industrial complex, and allying with Wall Street in manipulating the economy (the derivatives casino has contributed to our economic problems that we now face). So, these corporate thugs are outright corrupt. It is very important for us to witness the truth between the lines, so we can be prepared and help others. We are born on this Earth to help others and black people are entitled to freedom, justice, and equality.

      • Courtney H. says:

        I appreciate your wisdom, too, Brother. 😉

        Thank you for your comments. I agree with everything that you said. The double standards of white supremacy are there for all to see; it is just that the people are responsible for it see what they want to see. That is way there will be no changes, until we as a community make those changes. That is why we have to work together as a community.

  13. Alicia says:

    Interesting. I found my heart nor mind could bear watching Selma or any of the other previously released historical movies that dealt with black oppression. I agree with what has already been stated and also think it’s sad and ashame if the network show “Empire” is really as described above. I honestly have been tuning out when it comes to major media, the news and the like. It’s negative & also a tool for anti-black racism. Since I’ve tuned out the news and mass media, I feel happier, more in control of my life and able to focus on what’s important to me.

  14. Alicia says:

    I should also say that I am in my 30’s which most likely has a lot to do with why I just can’t do slave or black oppression movies anymore. I’ve seen so many different ones throughout my life. Unfortunately, also, I’ve lived it for too many years and KNOW the hate that’s out there and how long it’s been going on so just can’t anymore for peace of mind! It is, important of course for those 25 and under to understand our history. Especially so they can place where attitudes come from and how long it’s been going on when they come face to face with the evil racism.

  15. Courtney H. says:

    @ Everybody:

    What do you think of this?

    • Timothy says:

      I will make my comments on the video today.

    • Timothy says:

      Good Morning Sister Courtney H.

      Thank you for showing the video as we should listen to multiple points of view. The video was profanity laced rant. I disagree with him on the majority of his words. I do agree with him on Sorority Sisters issue. That show degraded black people (regardless if you agree with the Greeks or not) and black people establishing unity as a means to get the show cancelled is a great thing. That was great. The cancellation of the show proved the power of black people. This young human being obviously is emotional and is speaking in disrespectful terms (like cursing offensively instead of more progressively outlining his arguments). His argument is that Empire is a great show and it has no stereotypical imagery. I disagree. Boyce Watkins has made excellent points on the show. The truth is that the show Empire glamorizes materialism, back stabbing, self-hatred, and other evil qualities in the world explicitly. In real life, Wall Street bankers have done much more economic evils than black music owners. Empire is not representative of the majority of black families at all. Also, he seems to place the black community into a box. Not all black people are haters, not all black people are hypocrites, and not all black people want to oppress people. There are many heterosexual black people (since he loves to stereotype and generalize heterosexual black people) who will not say slurs, will not mistreat a person, and will harm a person physically unjustly because of their background. It is a fact that the system of white supremacy has oppressed black people of alternative lifestyles than black people (who are heterosexual) have ever done. We black people don’t control Congress, labor policies, the job market, Wall Street, or the political system of the West. The system of white supremacy does. We are both heterosexual black people and we will have every right to defend our character and our humanity as black people.

      The fact is that black people have every right to speak up and stand up for equality and condemn shows that slander our image. He talks about religion. There is nothing wrong with black people believing in spirituality or believe in one God at all. This show and spirituality are 2 different issues. Boyce Watkins has said that religious people disagree with certainly lifestyles. Boyce was never using religion as a crutch to disagree with the show Empire. We should fight for equality and justice. That’s true and we should also condemn the anti-black propaganda found in the media and television. Also, there is nothing in the rule book that says that we can never critique shows with black people in them. These shows are not completely run by black people anyway.

      They are mostly run by mostly white males via corporate money. Let’s Stay Together was a great show (with excellent storylines and most people did not criticize it), but it ended in 2014. It is rare to find shows that expresses an authentic portrayal of the diversity of black life. So, the young person can be mad, he can curse, and he can stereotype his own people, but the truth will still remain. It is ironic that he says that Boyce Watkins has anger, but Boyce has not shown anger in his video. He expressed strong dissent and some (not all) in the younger generation can’t stand strong dissent. Some of them can’t stand correction. The young person ironically is angry and is caught up in his feelings when a strong discussion can exclude massive profanity. In the final analysis, we need more unity as black people. At the same time, we shouldn’t never be nihilists and say that a show like Empire represents our greatness. We are a great people and we are a strong people. We deserve our true image to be shown. I prefer to look at Roc on Bounce TV than Empire. That’s real talk.

      Have a Great Day.

      God Bless you 🙂

      • Courtney H. says:

        Good morning, Brother Timothy:

        You got up really to respond to my post! Thank you. I greatly appreciate that!

        Anyway, I am glad that I posted the video, too, because we do need to look at other points of view within the community. I agree with all of your statements about the video.

        I am sorry that I did not warn about the profanity.

        Black people have united at times to have degrading shows taken off the air. **Sorority Sisters** and one example, and so is **My Baby*s Mamas** is another.

        You can have disagreements within the community without all of the cussing and disrespect. All of that is so unnecessary.

        Dr. Boyce Watkins stated point-by-point about why he found the show **Empire** to be objectionable. He discussed the many examples of coonery promoted on this show. And he was not attacking gays. He simply discussed religion to add to the perspective as to why he objects to the gay agenda being pushed by the entertainment industry, and that **Empire** is an example of that agenda, as well as coonery.

        I used to teach in public schools, so I know what you are talking about how young people nowadays who cannot accept correction, or discipline from their elders. Many young people (not all) have not respect whatsoever. They are angry, they do not want to be held accountable for anything (because we have taken that accountability from them), they do not want to learn anything, etc. Like I said, this is not all young people, but many of them.

        Oh, and if we believe that **Empire** is the best we can do regarding **Black** television, then we are f*cked. God bless you, too.

        • Courtney H. says:

          Oh! Here is a good video about the Academy Awards, Hollywood, fame, celebrity, and how Blacks are treated in the entertainment industry.

        • Timothy says:

          Good Afternoon Sister Courtney,

          You have excellent points on this issue. We have look at other points of views, so we can grow our thinking. Yes, the My Baby’s Mamas show was cancelled via the pressure from the black community too. Our community can agree and disagree on issues without the massive disrespect, which is found in our time. We do realize that some young people are disrespectful and refuse to be held accountable for their actions. This is not representative of all young people though. Many young people are doing what is right, they are standing up against police brutality, they are working in grassroots organizations, and they are helping the black community in diverse ways. We are not the show “Empire.” We are Timbuktu, we are Nubia, we are the Maroons, and we are Black People. We are strong and we will not back down from evil. We fight evil and advance goodness. Dr. Boyce Watkins gave an elaborate analysis of the show Empire in a descriptive fashion. He didn’t use hyperbole either.

          At the end of the day, abhorrent anti-black stereotypes have been promoted by Hollywood and the mainstream media for almost one century. Enough is Enough. We want real changes and we want justice.

          Like usual, you’re so Sweet. 😉

          Keep on showing the wisdom and you’re a great person. 😉

          • Courtney H. says:

            Brother Timothy, you are so sweet, too. ;). Thank you for your compliments and comments. You are also a great person who shows wisdom.

            I do not have to add to your comments because I agree with everything that you said. On one of mrsuperboy*s videos, he says that if we Black people get our group economics together, than we can be unstoppable. We have already shown our power by getting offensive shows off of the air.

            BTW, when my sister and I came home from Bible study last night, I was tempted to turn on the TV and watch **Empire,** to watch it critically, but I did not turn on the TV last night, so that I wouldn*t be tempted to watch it. I am very glad that I resisted that temptation!

            You have a good day. Brother. 🙂

  16. Shanequa says:

    @ Courtney H
    I disagree with the young man in the video responding to Boyce Watkins. First of all “Empire” & “Blackish” is no different then those ratchet black reality shows, they all indulge in ignorance. The young man in the video doesn’t realize when these black stereotypes be broadcast on national television to the world, non blacks really believe black people are ratchets. I haven’t seen a positive black television show yet. Furthermore, the media is control by Jews aka non blacks, so I wouldn’t expect them to put anything positive about black people on television. As you watch television there are negative white shows but it is even out with positive shows. Boyce Watkins wasn’t hating, he was being honest. Most of the black television show are all negative an not many positive ones to even the shows out.

    • Courtney H. says:

      @ Shanequa:

      I agree with you about the young man in the video. He chooses not to see the real picture of what is going on.

      These shows are all the same — they indulge in stereotyping Black people. I am glad that you brought up the fact that people around the world will watch these shows and believe their depictions of us. They see us all like this based on these stereotypical portrayals. That is why people who have never met a Black person look down on us, because of these portrayals.

      There are not as many positive portrayals of Black people in the media (news and entertainment). One of the few positive Black shows was **The Cosby Show.** Back then, I do not remember anybody criticizing that show, but now I have heard some Black people attacking it for being **bougie** (since it depicted a professional, well-to-do Black family).

      Yes, you are right about White trash shows (like **Honey Boo Boo**) being evened out with positive shows featuring White people, but you do not have this with Black people. That is a point that are lot of people who support shows like **Empire** miss. That is one of the points that Dr. Boyce Watkins made about **Empire**. The majority society will only accept us in certain roles, and all of these roles are negative.

      Thank you for your response to the video. You have a good day, Sister. 🙂

  17. Courtney H. says:

    @ Everybody:

    Here is a video that I posted on another thread. The narrator discusses **The Butler** and **Twelve Years a Slave**, as well as the reality of Black history in the diaspora, and how it has been distorted by white supremacy. Be forewarned — the narrator uses a lot of profanity:

  18. Courtney H. says:

    This is OT, but it is a good article about the persecution of Billie Holliday and the drug war:

    • Timothy says:

      That’s an excellent link Sister Courtney H.

      I read the article in less than 5 minutes and the article is accurate. The War on Drugs did not began back in the 1970’s during the days of Nixon. It existed decades before where drug addiction was treated as equivalent to murder instead of a serious problem meriting treatment. Billie Holliday was a talented musician and she lived a troubled life. Yet, she never deserved to be mistreated by many government officials who expressed a non-compassionate attitude about those struggling with drug addiction. Racial stereotypes against black people and other human beings of color existed. This stereotype has been called many names back then like “reefer-madness.” The War on Drugs continues today, yet more of the youth and social activists in general oppose it. Jazz is an artform that originated from Delta as we all know. Many artists have used jazz not as a means to promote destruction of society, but to express their own ideas and to see that life is diverse in its composition. The racist demonization of jazz by the powers that be is similar to the hatred that white racists have of black music today. Billie Holliday was a black woman who was extremely intelligent and she would want people to know about her life and make the best of their own lives too.

      Thank you for showing that great link.

      RIP Billie Holliday.

      • Courtney H. says:

        Thank you, Brother Timothy.

        I posted that article not only because it tells the truth about the so-called drug war, but it is very well-written. Having an English-major background, I do appreciate good writing. The article is very informative about the drug war, its racist intentions, and how people were (and still are) victimized by it.

        We discussed earlier about how many young people are becoming more active in making changes for justice in this country. The opposition to the drug war is one of them. Many young people are speaking out against mandatory minimums and other facets of the drug war which have really hurt Black people and other people of color.

        Here is a clip from a really good documentary about the drug war that first aired on PBS a few years ago. It is called **The House I Live In.**

        Here is another clip:

        Again, this is a really good documentary, and I hope that you are eventually able to watch it in tis entirety.

        Have a great day, Brother! 🙂

  19. Courtney H. says:

    Here is another video commentary about **Empire** and other Black shows:

    • Timothy says:

      Good Afternoon Sister Courtney H,

      I have listened to the video from the Brother. He made many accurate points about the Hollywood, entertainment industry. To start, it is true that a bad tree can’t produce good fruit. That means that the entertainment industry since its inception has shown bad fruits (that deals with racial stereotypes, materialism, greed, misogyny, gratuitous violence, cultural exploitation, cultural appropriation, etc.). That is all historical. We see that in films from Birth of A Nation to the Littlest Rebel. Also, there was a time during the 1990’s when many great shows existed like Roc, Moesha, In Living Single, NY Undercover, A Different World, The Parent Hood, Hangin with Mr. Cooper, Sister Sister, etc. I was in elementary school, middle school, and high school when these shows were on the air and each of these shows expressed many positive aspects of black life. They have shown humor, action, drama, and the diversity of the black community in general. Many of these shows educated their audiences about peer pressure, disease, responsibility, family togetherness, and other lessons. The fruits of the Spirit deal with love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. These are the aspects that anyone should aspire to be. These shows are gone and they have been replaced today heavily with many reality TV shows that degrades black people and shows an unflattering picture of the black collective. Even Maury and Jerry Springer exploits the lives of the working class including the poor when many of the topics found in those shows can be handled privately. We have to see the signs and act accordingly. He also mentioned shows of the 1980’s like Give Me a Break, Benson, etc. Those shows describe the stereotype of the black Savior or a black person must help white people of out of the kindness of his or her own heart (for the benefit of white people).

      The years may change, but the same game is still the same. That game is the system of white supremacy. That is the point in which the Brother is trying to make. We know about Lee Daniels. He not only slandered black women involving HIV and welfare. He also said that white people can call black people the N word and that white person can still love that black person. That is ludicrous and false to the nth degree. There is no justification for Lee Daniels’ misogynistic statements at all. It is obvious that Lee Daniels has issues and wants to paint the false picture of the black collective being super hateful and lacking any compassion for humanity. When the truth is that black people are a very loving, compassionate people. In the civil rights movement, we allowed people of many ethnicities to join us in our fight for liberation. The system of white supremacy has brutalized people of alternative lifestyles a whole lot worse (in the span of centuries) than the black community. That is a fact. The system of white supremacy has harmed black people too. Heterosexual black people (who are not mistreating anyone or harming anyone unjustly) should not be scapegoated for the evil actions of others.

      Many people do in fact exploit the struggles of black people as an excuse for them to push agendas whether political, economic, or otherwise. Evil people exist in every race and ethnicity. The show Empire (which was also co-created by a white man named Danny Strong. We should not omit that since the face of white supremacy always uses people of color as fronts when they control the system) not only shows stereotypes, but that show is not our greatest. We are greater than this. We are Timbuktu, we are Africa, we are Black, and we are Beautiful without question. We have to keep our eyes on the prize and stand up for the integrity of our black people. He is right that black people in that industry should form their own infrastructure, so black stories are accurately told without the lies and the bashing. There is nothing wrong with a black man loving a black woman and vice versa.

      The degrading of the dignity of black people is not just found in Hollywood. It is found in the streets where crooked cops oppress black people. It is found where racism and discrimination exists. It is found in the self-hatred that many black people possess. So, we need the Knowledge of self and we need to fight evil. The only way to defeat evil is to fight it. A black man has every right to show his strength and a black woman has every right to show her strength too. Black Love is certainly a Revolutionary Act. Evil people can’t stand it when a black man and a black woman show not only romantic love (which is beautiful), but also when they act in pure unity to stand up against oppression. That is why we will continue to advance truth, wisdom, Black Love, and justice.

      Thank you for showing the video as we should be exposed to many forms of information as a way for us to grow our consciousness.

      • Courtney H. says:

        Good Evening, Brother Timothy.

        Thank you for taking the time to respond to the video. The Brother covered a lot of issues. These issues include stereotyping, diversity, the phases of Black presence in movies and on TV, and especially how the more things change, the more the stay the same (just like you stated) in your response.

        Therefore, I do not really have to add to your thoughtful comments. There used to be some really good Black TV shows about 20 years ago (you listed them in your response), but because they presented us in a positive fashion and dealt realistically with social issues, they are no longer on the air. Now we have these ratchet reality shows and these coon drama and comedy shows that are really popular because of their negative depictions of Black people. The Brother narrating the video brought up a point that more and more Black people are discussing and which we have discussed before — we need to start our own media, just like the Latinos and the Asians have.

        Sometimes I have watched programs on Bounce and TVOne, but I am starting to realize that I need to watch these networks more (BET is a lost cause). They do have the programming that is aimed at us. There are at least three networks devoted to Spanish-speaking people, and I understand that they are really popular. There are local networks in my area (ATL) that are directed to Korean people. There are also networks for Japanese, Chinese, South Asian, and Brazilian people. There are Aspire and The Africa Channel directed to Black people and the African diaspora, so that is a start.

        I am glad that the Brother mentioned Lee Daniels and his remarks about Black women and other ratcheted nonsense. **Empire** can be seen as an example of self-hatred. And many of us watch these shows, which is also self-hatred. Just like you said, we really have to get together to make opportunities to make changes in how we are perceived, which is a way of fighting against injustice and evil, and for justice and good.

        Thank you again for your comments and compliments, Brother Timothy. As always, I am glad to contribute to the conversation.

        • Timothy says:

          You’re Welcome Sister.

          I love many shows from TVOne and Bounce too. I love the Unsung show since they talk about the stories of musicians. Yes, the Brother did talk about many issues. Building our own infrastructure is great. Many other ethnic groups (like the Italians, the Germans, the Hispanics, the Asians, Jewish people. the Irish, etc.) have their own clubs, organizations, etc. that cater to their interests, needs, and aspirations. Us doing the same in forming such great organizations, which can show our true story, is important as well. There is absolutely nothing wrong with developing our own media and our own film infrastructure. In that sense, we can show our real stories and inspire black people. Black people are not just athletes and musicians (though there is nothing wrong with those occupations). We are scholars, lawyers, teachers, construction workers, engineers, and other contributors to the world. God Bless You.

          • Courtney H. says:

            Thank you and God bless you, too, Brother.

            I agree with all of your statements. Building our infrastructure is very important to improving our community. Developing our own media is a crucial part of that, since perception plays a large role in how people are treated in society (we have discussed this all before).

  20. reality_check says:

    @Trojan Pam: Just wanted to say that I purchased your book “The Interracial Con Game” via Amazon a couple weeks ago and I must say EXCELLENT JOB! Not only did it reinforce some things I already knew but it also gave me much food for thought on some angles that I hadn’t considered. I’m part of a book club for conscious blacks and I have recommended the book for discussion.

    Again, GREAT JOB! I was impressed with the work.

    • Trojan Pam says:

      @ reality_check

      Thanks for supporting my work! And thanks for considering my book for your book club.
      Would you please leave a review on Amazon? It encourages others to read the books.

  21. Courtney H. says:

    Here is an article related to this post. It discusses whether biracial actresses are replacing Black actresses in Hollywood:

    • Timothy says:

      Good Afternoon Sister Courtney,

      That article (from the Clutch website) is great and it touches on many issues. Before going forward, one thing must be made clear. We are adamantly opposed to colorism and racial discrimination completely. For almost a century, colorism in the entertainment industry has not only discriminated against black actresses. That colorism has hurt many black people emotionally and psychologically. That is why there are countless stories about black people expressing their hurt and pan at being mistreated because of their black skin. Black is Beautiful and Black Lives Matter. It is easy to witness how Hollywood has promoted stereotypes when they have a dark skinned actress playing negative roles in television or in movies. Sister Trojan Pam has written about this injustice extensively. She is a genius in describing this issue. Some black men (and other black people) have propped up light-skinned black women and biracial women as superior to brown and darker skinned black women. That evil action is wrong and is part of a slavery mentality. The truth is that biracial people are not superior to anyone. We, as black people, are the first humans on Earth. Black actresses should have their human dignity respected. The show from TVOne called “Hollywood Divas” shows the struggles of many beautiful, talented black actresses. We should not embrace some caste system in our community on the basis of our hues. Likewise, we should not view biracial people as scapegoats for all of our oppression. At the end of the day, the system of white supremacy has harmed the black community in many ways. Black and Biracial human beings have been victims of the same system of oppression. We have shown our views on biracial human beings. Biracial people who are down for the cause of liberation of all black people should be trusted. Those biracial people who are not down for the cause should not be allied with politically or otherwise. We have to treat people based on their character and black actresses should be respected as human beings.

      • Courtney H. says:

        Good morning, Brother Timothy.

        I am glad that I posted the link, though it was posted on Clutchmag some time ago. You see the high number of commenters who responded, since this is a bone of contention in the Black community. Spike Lee*s film **School Daze** dealt with the issue of colorism, as well as other movies.

        I agree with everything that you stated, especially the fact that biracial people who know that they are Black and are down for liberation should be accepted in the Black community. The ones who do not want to be Black need to be left by the wayside, like other coons and bedwenches. We need more unity in our community. To feel that a Brother or a Sister should be left out because s/he may have one non-Black parent works against unity and keeps us from fighting effectively against white supremacy.

        I know that I keep bombarding y*all with these videos, but this one is related to Blacks and the media as well:

        Enjoy! 😀

        • Timothy says:

          Good Afternoon Sister Courtney.

          The video was very entertaining to say the least. The Brother didn’t pull any punches and I agree with most of what he said. I will mention what I disagree with him on later. Yet, he is right on many things. He’s right that we as black people should not place black celebrities on an unfair pedestal. Many black celebrities have claimed to support the cause, but some of them have either lost their way, became silent, or actively are against us. Charles Barkley, Stacey Dash, and others have said disrespectful comments about the black community. Stacey Dash recently said sick comments about the UVA rape scandal. That is truly sad. So, we know how the game is. The establishment uses celebrities like Charles as a means for the establishment to promote a scapegoating of the black community when we should figure out the truth.

          He gave a rundown of many celebrities. He is right that Michael Jordan can do a lot more in helping the community. He experienced a controversy back years ago when many Nike factories was caught in exploiting workers in an inappropriate way. Michael Jordan is famous for saying that Republicans buy shoes too. I respect Michael Jordan’s talent, but I don’t agree with all of his actions. The speaker has expressed his massive criticism against Sidney Poitier. Sidney Poitier is a great actor. He supported the civil rights movement decades ago. He has spoken up on many issues. Yet, he was not the first black person who broke down barriers and spoke up in favor of justice for black people. Paul Robeson, Oscar Micheaux, and others broke barriers before Sidney Poitier. Yet, I will not disparage Poitier’s legacy. We have to respect the legacy of our heroes and be inspired to create a legacy for our community in our modern generation as well. Also, we have to not get carried away into a McCarthyite attitude in demonizing any black person with wealth. Black people need more unity from across socioeconomic backgrounds.

          Black celebrities definitely have a responsibility to talk about the interests of the black community just like other celebrities (of different ethnic groups) do for their own community. I disagree with the speaker slightly on Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali is a courageous man. He put his title, his wealth, and his prestige in risk for his convictions. He was not afraid. He was not a coward. He opposed the Vietnam War out of a sincere justification. He acted as a man in his opposition to the Vietnam War. Yet, Muhammad Ali has a falling out with Malcolm X and he made mistakes (I think that Ali was wrong to disrespect black boxers’ physical appearances. That is blatantly wrong). Yet, Ali changed and he expressed regret over his mistakes like him shunning Malcolm X. Today, Muhammad Ali has stood up for literacy, justice, and freedom for all. Muhammad Ali is an inspirational person and he is a great black hero. Harry Belafonte has fought for numerous causes even today. Paul Robeson mentored Harry Belafonte decades ago. His views on Jesse Jackson are interesting. Regardless of Jesse’s politics (I agree with Jesse on some issues and not on others), the speaker was right that Jesse should not of been disrespected by some of the youth in Ferguson. On Bill Cosby, I am neutral on whether he is guilty or innocent. Yet, so far, it doesn’t look good for Bill Cosby. Rape is a crime against nature. Rape is totally evil. If he is innocent, he should move on in his life. If he’s guilty, then he must be punished. Cosby said disrespectful comments about the black poor.

          The speaker is right that white society will want black people to support people that they endorse instead of black people independently supporting their own heroes or leaders. The gist of the video is that we must use discernment on how we deal with celebrities and we should never place celebrities as superior to us. We have to be careful too. As Trojan Pam has mentioned, we should not blame black celebrities for the overall oppressive system of white supremacy at all. We have to put things into context and keep our eyes on the prize (which is liberation for our people).

          • Courtney H. says:

            Good Evening Brother Timothy:

            Thank you for your thorough response to the video. I appreciate you taking the time out to watch the watch the video and commenting. The Brother covered a lot of material in his video.

            I agree with your summation of the video. We should not put celebrities on a pedestal. In the Professor Griff and Zaza Ali video about **Empire** (which I posted on this thread), Sister Zaza said that people who follow celebrities live empty lives.

            Blacks in prominent positions (actors, politicians, athletes, etc.) should not be put on a pedestal and if they have accomplished good things, those accomplishments should be praised. We should also praise the accomplishments of everyday people in our communities. That*s why I enjoy reading articles about everyday Black people accomplishing good things:


            However, when people act like fools (like the ones you mentioned above), they need to be called out. However, that does not mean putting down people just because they have money, for example. You are right about that.

            Many celebrities are involved in activism in one way or another. Some of them do it for publicity, while others are genuinely concerned. Black celebrities have to be concerned and involved in their communities and not just pay lip service.

            I agree with what you stated about Muhammad Ali and Bill Cosby, so I do not have to add anything to what you said. I also agree with you assessment about what Brother Harvey (the narrator of the video) and Sister Trojan Pam said about not allowing Whites to dictate who our leaders should be and that these leaders and celebrities, while they have responsibilities, they are not responsible for the system of the white supremacy system. Black liberation is what we all have to strive for in one way or another, just like you said.

  22. Courtney H. says:

    Here is an interesting article:

    • Timothy says:

      That is a very interesting. It is a historical fact that many people of color worked in the black liberation movement. We have to acknowledge that. Yet, I found out some years ago that Gandhi was a racist. Just Google “Gandhi and racism” to find the evidence.

      Check out the link Gandhism (dot) net.

      Thank you for showing the link and yes, many Indian people have fought for justice against the system of white supremacy.

      • Courtney H. says:

        Good morning, Brother Timothy.

        I agree with you that we have to acknowledge how other people of color have been involved in the Black liberation struggle.

        I also learned recently that Gandhi was extremely racist against Black folks. He used to call the Black people in South Africa **kaffirs**, which is the South African equivalent of n*ggers. I believe that I have see the website that you mention.

  23. Courtney H. says:

    Tariq Nasheed discusses how interracial relationships are being promoted by the media:

    • Timothy says:

      Hello Sister Courtney. 🙂

      Here is my take of the Tariq Nasheed’s views

      The video touched on many topics. There are many accurate points that he made. He is right that black people must promote unity as a means for us to gain power. We should gain power not as a means to oppress the poor or promote monopoly capitalism. We gain power as a means for us to empower the masses of our people. The enemy is the system of white supremacy. The system of white supremacy is sophisticated and they switch up their tactics all of the time. For example, the system has used the Maafa centuries ago and today they have used gentrification, many shows, the war on terror, etc. as a means for the system to dominate people and the world’s resources. The system of white supremacy wants to dominate the functions and all aspects of our community directly or indirectly. Just because a white person is in an interracial relationship doesn’t mean that a white person is not a racist. Racist white people date and marry black people all of the time. That is why we should use discernment. We have to develop our own power and embrace Black Love. The mainstream media, movies, TV shows, etc. have bashed Black Love all of the time. That is why we should embrace Black Love as a means for survival for ourselves and our descendants. Also, Black Love is beautiful and it represents the strength of our legacy.

      We have to love our black culture and our black heritage. Many interracial relationships are products of self-hatred (as some black people use a weak excuse of going interracial because they say that they were disrespected by black people when tons of black people are eclectic and will treat black people right. We have to get off distractions and fight for our liberation), confusion, and socio-political reasons. Not all interracial relationships are monolithic, but interracial relationships are not the panacea to solve all of us problems as a black community. As for biracial human beings, we have made our views clear on biracial people. Those who are down for the cause of black liberation should be allied with. Those who are not down should not be allied with. We know many biracial people who fought for black liberation and we know how some biracial people have been used as agents of white supremacy. The system of white supremacy has oppressed people of color for a long time, which includes biracial human beings. We need to develop short term and long term strategies, so we can end the system of white supremacy (which acts as a prison as Tariq has said), and create a real system of justice. Also, we have to confront colorism as we can’t be free unless we defeat colorism once and for all. Black people come in diverse hues and black is beautiful regardless. Therefore, we should not act as pimps and mack on people. We should maintain our integrity and understand how the world is so that we can change the world in a positive direction. We have to develop our economic and political power. Also, we must develop our souls too. The mind, body (as following true health and great exercise can develop the human body in amazing ways. Developing our health is important just like building our economic & political power), and should be respected if we want true liberation. In other words, we have to be mentally aware of our blackness and reject white supremacy psychologically. That means that we must affirm our black personhood.

      We must only love our blackness, but we not have nihilistic, evil hatred against our neighbor. Love is superior of hate and love has nothing to do with condoning evil. Love is about goodwill towards people and standing up for justice like our heroes of old have advanced. We need to fight for social justice and use strategies that fight for our independence as a community and as a people. We need to make a strong alliance among all black people in the world (not just in Africa, but throughout the African Diaspora). This alliance should be political, economic, and social. We already find marriages between African Americans and Africans increasing now. That is a great thing. The system of white supremacy replaced overt Jim Crow apartheid with newer modes of oppression like deindustrialization, the prison industrial complex (aka the New Jim Crow), economic oppression, etc.

      Black men and Black women should come together more as one unified people to fight oppression. Unity is needed, so strength can grow. We need to grow our own infrastructure too. Freedom never comes without struggle and we have to struggle plus struggle for our freedom. We have to do action.

      • Courtney H. says:

        @ Good afternoon, Brother Timothy. 🙂

        Thank you for your detailed response to Tariq*s show. I agree with your assessments, so I will not add much to what you said. As Tariq said, we are spending so much time b*tching with one another, trying to decide who is really Black and who isn*t, and all other kind of nonsense, while White supremacists are supporting one another financially and keeping their act together. That is why he and others preach Black empowerment. People with both economic and political power get what they want because they are viable and are a force in society.

        I believe that more and more people are waking up to the propaganda that are being used against us, because more and more people are calling out this craziness. A few years ago, these movies, TV shows, etc., would not receive objections, but with **Empire** and other propaganda, people are calling it out at the get-go. Yeah, this show may be a hit, but a lot of people are not watching it because they see it as the coonery that it is.

        I did not know that many African-Americans are marrying Africans. That is good to hear. Usually, when you have conversations about African-Americans and Africans, it is about how Africans look down on African-Americans. This is not always the case, and more African-Americans and Africans are cooperating with one another, because we realize that we are all on the same boat. Other groups of people from the same diaspora help one another, and we need to start doing the same thing, too, in order to live as well as to survive.

        • Timothy says:

          I agree with all of your words too.

          There should be no cut throat behavior in our community, because we are all we got literally.

          There is not a need for naivete. You shown excellent words about how we as a community ought to have economic empowerment. This is what SNCC and other organizations wanted and promoted. With African Americans cooperating more with black people globally, then that can not only create more power. It can develop more camaraderie as one people.

          • Courtney H. says:

            Thank you for your comments and compliments, Brother Timothy. 🙂 They are greatly appreciated.

            Here is another article about Blacks in Hollywood:


            • Timothy says:

              You’re Welcome. 🙂

              Good Afternoon Sister Courtney,

              David Oyelowo is accurate in much of his comments. There are many movies that show black people in the eyes of white people. Many roles of Hollywood show black people in subservient, stereotypical roles. Many white supremacists want to alleviate white guilt by showing certain movies, showing propaganda, etc. Our image, as black people, is a beautiful image and is a diverse image too. We have been leaders, scholars, engineers, Kings, etc. throughout human history. More films should show a diverse display of our image. We have to learn about one point too. Just because an actor or an actress accurately portrays a slave or a controversial character, doesn’t mean that this actor or an actress is a sellout or someone who wants to perpetrate stereotypes. Slavery is not our whole history, but it is part of it. We have to fairly know about slavery, our civilizations, our engineers, our scholars, etc. Our whole story must be shown.

              At the end of the day, we have to develop more of our power. There is nothing wrong with power if it is used correctly. At the heart of the matter, we are a revolutionary people. We have a revolutionary history and we love revolutionary change. We are not only entitled to justice. We are entitled to independence. The enemy knows who we are. The deal is that many of us need to know their own worth and own value, so the system of white supremacy can end. That has nothing to do with hating others unfairly. It has to do with loving ourselves and true love is not subservience. Hollywood fruits has been evil since its inception as no good fruit can come from a rotten tree. That is why we need to build more independent black film studios that show our diverse image as Brothers and Sisters. True love is demanding, it wants accountability, and it is in complete opposition to injustice. True love is powerful and true love along with justice can change the whole world for the better.

              • Courtney H. says:

                Brother Timothy:

                Thank you for your response. I agree with everything you said.

                You are right about us being a revolutionary people. That is why we are always protesting, because we are only demanding our justice as human beings. That is why we are hearing more and more opposition to these slave and servant movies, and more of us are calling for us to create our own media, as other groups have done, so our whole history can be told.

                Dr. Umar Johnsons talks a lot about Blacks becoming more independent in this video:

                I agree with you that we are only demanding justice out of love for our people — all African people.

            • Timothy says:

              Thank you for the other link too.

              Here are my thoughts.

              Akon’s views are his views. The truth is that the large continent of Africa is filled with cities with modern amenities, transportation, advanced technology, and massive trade. It is false stereotype to assume that Africa is just filled with poverty stricken areas. Also, many African Americans are poor and don’t have the financial resources to come into Africa. Economic inequality is a serious issue in America and in Africa. Just because a Brother or a Sister in America have food stamps doesn’t mean that they have escaped massive poverty (or that everything is cool). Many African Americans have not only visited Africa, but many African Americans have built up cultural, social, economic, and political ties in Africa for real. There are plenty of examples of this. Malcolm X built up political ties with Africa via his travels, his correspondence with African leaders, and with his organization of the OAAU. Maya Angelou taught Africans in Africa decades ago. There are many black African American conscious people setting up charities, educational facilities, and other programs in Africa.

              WEB DuBois established political ties in Africa before he passed away in 1963. He was working on an African Encyclopedia before he died in Ghana. So, many African Americans are not afraid to come into Africa. There should not be a caste system involving black people globally. Africans are not superior to African Americans. African Americans are not superior to Africans. Also, the system of white supremacy (via the mainstream media, etc.) has promoted a stereotypical image of Africa and African Americans, which has caused division & distrust among some Africans and some African Americans. We have to end that distrust. We have to unite and collaborate more as one black people. In other words, we need to unite African Americans, Afro-Brazilians, Afro-French, Afro-British, Afro-Caribbeans, Afro-Colombians, etc. as one. WE ARE ONE. I don’t agree with Akon that African Americans are afraid to go into Africa as economic issues restrict many black Americans from going into Africa. I don’t agree with Akon on his other views on African Americans.

              Akon is definitely right to say that the system in America was not created with black people in mind. He’s 100 percent correct on that point. America was founded by many slave owners and aristocrats who refused to free all black people and legalized slavery in their “law.” Also, it is important to mention that many Africans would disagree with Akon too on some issues. I have no ill will towards Akon. Akon is our Brother. Akon is a very intelligent person. This is a good discussion to have, because discussions like these can inspire change. We, as black Americans, can clear things up. Africans can clear things up too. We are African Americans. We are entitled to freedom, justice, and equality just like anyone else. Also, we can learn from others in the African Diaspora so we can respect the diversities of cultures, but realize that we are one black people.

              We are all family.

              • Courtney H. says:

                You are welcome. 🙂

                Thank you for your comments. I agree that Africa has been disgracefully stereotyped by the mainstream media as a dangerous place where there are wars all over the place and people are starving to death. I understand that there are some Central Asian and Eastern Europeans countries ruled by dictators that are worse. But I digress . . .

                Many parts of Africa are modern, with the same technologies as Western countries. We need to counter the Western propaganda about Africa by advertising the continent using our own media.

                Anyway, we have to realize that Africa is a beautiful continent full of beautiful Black people. Economics is one of the reasons why a lot Black people do not travel to Africa. As some of the posters to the article stated, it costs more to travel to Africa than to Europe or Asia. You are also right to point out that many Black Americans have traveled to Africa and have built ties there. I am glad that you mentioned this.

                I also agree that Akon is right that the American system was not created for Black people in mind. He is 100% right about that.

                I believe that growing members of the African diaspora are learning to cooperate with one another because we starting to realize we are all we got. We are all building ties to one way or another.

  24. Alicia says:

    Can we get a subject here on COPING with racism? 😦 I’m in my mid 30’s and don’t know how any black person can survive in corporate America for any longer than that. Is this really our lives? It’s horrible. the attitude, the pitting blacks against blacks, the pitting black men against black women and vice-versa. What we face in corporate america is crazy, what’s wrong with us?

    • Trojan Pam says:

      @ Alicia

      Sadly, there’s no easy solutions for coping with racism. I’ve included solutions and suggestions in my last two books, “The Interracial Con Game” and “The Beauty Con Game” that might be helpful but as far as dealing with other black people, yes, we are mentally ill. This is not a putdown, it’s a reality. But the people who designed this system are the most mentally ill.

      The best you can do is NOT feed into that illness whether it’s coming from whites or blacks.

  25. Shanequa says:

    @ Alicia you made a valid point with your statement. Black men & women are fighting each other over master left over crumbs. For example, you have some black men thinking that a black woman in corporate America is having sex with a white man for her job position, when a black men with more experience who is qualified doesn’t get the position. What they fail to realize by them hiring the black woman it weeds out the black men and the white man can use affirmative action by saying she’s black and female. I also notice when black men & women who are in those hiring positions refuse to hire their own, while every other race think of race first when hiring their own. I also notice blacks who are in hiring positions are being watch making sure their not hiring to many of their own. We have too many black men & women who hate being supervise on the job by a black person because they abuse their power. Some of these black supervisor clowns feel inferior to other blacks when they feel their job position is threaten on top of that they kiss master ass on the job. This has happen to me many of times with coworkers or supervisors. White supremacy is the root of the cause of problem but our people will cut each others neck before finding out how the conflict started.

    • Courtney H. says:

      @ Shanequa:

      That is SO true! I have been subjected to this back-stabbing by other Black folks on the job, and deep down the reason why Black supervisors are f*cking with Black co-workers is because a White person is the one telling them to do so I have worked on many jobs where I was screwed over by both Black and White supervisors, and I hate to say this, but many times, the Black supervisors were worse! That is why Tariq Nasheed, Jason Black, and others are promoting Black empowerment. They say that once we have economic power, then we will have more political power.

    • Alicia says:

      I don’t believe blacks attack each other or undermine each other. I have worked places or seen it happen and have had many experiences where it never happens. My issue is that we don’t support each other. It doesn’t have to be out in the open, but it can be during a private moment, or acts of kindness.

      You are right when you say other races think race first. East Indians, Latinos and others are all about hiring and promoting their own in the workplace ( one of the most important places to stick together).

      I have never and will never attack another black person on a job ( or anywhere else for that matter), so don’t understand it. But i know many blacks feel against the wall when it comes to racism so don’t know what to do to keep a job or have an opportunity in the face of anti-black racism.

      What I’ve witnessed in corporate America has been that while black men get hated on, we black women not only get hated on but have to deal with a constant pull on the part of white supremacists to have us maligned. I have held many jobs where black men were more welcome than we black women and there was a vibe where they didn’t want black men or latino or any other men to be too kind to black women.

      There’s alot of hate and cruelty in the world and racism is one major component of it. I don’t understand why blacks aren’t more kind and friendly and supportive of each other when we definitely can be, especially outside of white-dominated areas.

      I have found corporate america to be an awful culture for black women. It’s anti-black women unless it’s a black majority environment. There’s so much pressure from society for black men to turn their backs on black women and not support us. Heck, for society to do so.

      I see older (50’s + ) black women and wonder how they made it? I’m in my 30’s and wondering how will I make it another 20-30 years in this environment.

      I just don’t know 😦 nor understand why we as human beings have to deal with this type of behavior and attitude merely because some group(s) are focused on hating because of skin color or race and why we black people are so vulnerable and able to be treated like this for so long. What have we done or are we doing so wrong to have this attitude thrown at us and this treatment? to deal with this hate yet have no way out?

      Where are the black businesses to hire black people? Why is black unemployment so high yet we have so many black billionaires nowadays? Why are black churches and businesses spending money in third world countries when we need job training and higher employment numbers right here in the good ol us of a?

      I’m just… baffled 😦

  26. Shanequa says:

    @ Courtney H
    While the black supervisor taking demands from their white master, when lay off times come they will be the first too go. Their white master will always find another better improved black slave puppet.

    • Courtney H. says:

      @ Shanequa:

      You are so right. That is the sad part about all of this — these coons and bedwenches do not realize that they are only useful to Whites to put down other Black people. Then they will be tossed aside for more house negroes.

      • Alicia says:

        The focus needs to be put on black wealth since we know this has been going on for 100’s of years and will continue to go on. Plus blacks supporting each other, being kind to each other, supporting black business and the like. There’s so much racism and hate that even black supervisors feel threatened and insecure in their jobs to help out fellow blacks.

    • Alicia says:

      Many black managers do hire black people and make an effort to do so. I have experienced this. Many thought cannot because someone over them is not allowing it. They feel their job may be threatened if they try to help out black people. That’s why we need more black businesses and corporations.

  27. Shanequa says:

    @ Courtney H
    100% agreed!!!!!!
    White supremacy have deteriorated our peoples mind that most of them can’t be reprogram. I go to work everyday saying, “this can’t be life.” Before I get paid Uncle Sam done took a good percentage out of my check. I have a bachelors degree an it took me damn 9 years to get a job. I was fed the “America Dream” go to college to get a good paying job, get married, have children, buy a big house and later retire that was a big dream until I woke up to reality.

    Everyday our people is trapped in the same cycle Monday through Friday work a 9 to 5, Friday & Saturday night is entertainment night when we do our illegal drugs, alcohol, enjoying material items, and having sex, then Sunday go to church. I have came across to many young black females in their twenties & early thirties already on their second or third child receiving government assistants. These women be surprise when I tell them that I’m 30 years old with no children. Better yet they are even more surprise at my age because I look so young especially with no children. Its sad when our own people expect every black man or woman in their twenties or thirties to be baby mama’s & daddy’s.

    At my job we receive benefits. I know some of my female coworkers are receiving government assistants but they are not using it the smart way which the United States government knew they wouldn’t anyway. These women are receiving medicade, welfare, & section 8. Some of these women didn’t even have common sense to sign themselves as well as their children for the benefits especially when it comes to health & life insurance. On top of that having a another insurance on your family is good especially when its through your job it cost less then you finding a insurance plan on your own will cost more. These women feel that I have medicade I don’t need no other insurance. By them receiving all of these government handouts they can actually save their own money up wisely buy spending one check on personal needs and saving the other check. The reason why I mention about saving a check just in case Uncle Sam cut your government assistants off you have a backup plan. By listening to them talk they are caught up in material bullshit and other bullshit.

    • Courtney H. says:

      @ Shanequa:


      I am not going to say that I understand what you are going through, because I do not. However, I understand what you are saying. I went to college and graduate school, and still it was hard finding a job. I then got certified in teaching grade-level school (which was three years of hell), and then I moved to another city after my sister had asked me to and got certified to teach ESL. I have worked at different part-time jobs teaching ESL and just got hired as a substitute adult ESL instructor. I thought that I would have the things that my classmates had. One of my friends years ago told me, **Maybe your life isn*t supposed to be like theirs.** That has comforted me, because it is depressing when you are dealing with a lot of crap, especially on these jobs.

      I had no idea about how many young women are getting two different checks, and spending one of them on material stuff. Thank you informing us. That is evidence of how materialism is promoted in this country. I have learned the hard way that we have to get what we need first, than get what we want. We do have to teach our children how to use money intelligently. That is the first step of economics — what money is and how to use it wisely (including saving it for the future).

      Thank you, Shanequa, for telling us your story, and giving us perspective.

    • Alicia says:

      That baby-momma stuff is in ghetto areas or not well to do areas. I was/am shocked when in those areas with tons of moms with babies and no man to support them and no husband. It baffles my mind but that is why black churches and those with money need to be pouring money in to EDUCATE people and correct their perspectives. So many able-bodied and fine 🙂 black men who in those environments turn to crime or drugs, it’s insane. One of the most broken men I’ve ever come across was a black male cab-driver who told me his two teen sons both fell into a bad crowd and were in jail. It was written all over him till the point I cried because he said he was proud of his very young daughter but disappointed in his two sons. Personally, it had alot to do with the area because the area was a ghetto area.

      More needs to be done in order for us to get out of the yoke of white supremacy.

      Where I work Shenequa is not like that, it’s heavily black and most are decent, family-oriented people.

      But we have so many problems that will have our generations to come dealing with the same mental, emotional, and economical terrorism in this society because they are black.

      • reality_check says:

        The black church is being used as a tool of white supremacy to keep black people oppressed and to lead them to slaughter.

        • Trojan Pam says:

          @ reality_check

          I agree, there is a reason that there are more churches in black communities than businesses and why black people are STILL following the same religious traditions that we were taught during slavery

  28. Shanequa says:

    @ Courtney H you’re welcome.

  29. Courtney H. says:

    Here is a really good video about Blacks in the media, racism, and double standards:

    • Timothy says:

      Good Afternoon Sister Courtney,

      The video has interesting points. First, I will show where I agree with him on and then later, I will show where I disagree with him on. I agree with him that there are double standards in the entertainment industry. Many black men have been unfairly demonized if they speak truth to power or go against the agenda of the mainstream society. Spike Lee told the truth about the system being rigged and about the evils of gentrification (for his comments, he was criticized by the vulgar Michael Rappaport. Rappaport called Spike Lee derogatory, offensive names. Rappaport is another phony liberal). Also, many white celebrities have done a huge amount of evil actions while many of these same white celebrities are not even criticized as much as when black celebrities who have done equivalent actions. Mel Gibson, Charlie Sheen (who beat women, etc.), Sean Penn, etc. have done worse actions than many black celebrities. He is right that Dr. King and Malcolm X was heavily criticized before they died (not only by white racists, but by the black bourgeoisie). The black bourgeoisie decades ago had members who agreed with the evil Vietnam War and we active agents of the system of white supremacy.

      He is right that many people want to criticize certain black people, because white society wants people to criticize certain black people. He is right to expose Donald Trump as being a reactionary extremist and Trump is not criticized heavily or boycotted at all. He is right that black people have every right to stand up for their human dignity in situations.

      He is wrong to say that Kim Kardashian is not white. She is white. She has Armenian, English, Dutch, and Scottish ancestry. Armenians are white people too. Just because a white person is not Nordic or Anglo-Saxon doesn’t mean that Armenians aren’t white. Armenians speak an Indo-European language. Armenians are Caucasians. White people don’t all look completely the same. I don’t believe in calling Kim Kardashian out of her name (I don’t believe that she should be disrespected), but she is not a black women. She is not the standard of beauty and she should not be glamorized over and beyond black women. Some Brothers want to praise Kim Kardashian as better than black women, which is lie (and a slander). That is why black women are tired of being compared to Kim Kardashian when black women are scholars, architects, and other great leaders. Kim Kardashian is being criticized, because her family has made racist comments, she is exploiting herself for profit, and she is culturally exploiting the black community for fame and fortune. That’s real talk. Black women are beautiful and their humanity should be respected.

      He is wrong in making false stereotypes about black people and black women. Many black people will not throw real black people under the bud. Black women have been fighting for liberation for a long time just like black men. Tons of black women won’t glamorize “thugs” or males with lax character. There are many black women who love strong black men. Also, the people on the Internet bashing black women are not true conscious people. These sick people are haters, and misogynists. The truth is that many black people respect community development and collective power. So, I don’t follow his stereotypical views on black people or on black women at all. Standing up for the black community is a necessity. There is absolutely no excuse for selling out. No one should sell out no matter what.

      As Dr. King have said, even if you are the only person on Earth telling the truth, still tell the truth regardless. We can’t minimize the contributions of black women in the liberation struggle. As for Cosby, I don’t believe that he should be unfairly demonized, but he is wrong on the issue of black names (which he has condemned many African-sounding names). Black people have every right to call their child whatever name that they want. Yes, many of the names that African Americans use have African origins like Ashanti, Tanisha, Kwesi, Adina, Ada, Aisha, etc. These are excellent names. Bill Cosby is wrong in his offensive commentaries on black poor people. Black men suffer oppression just like Black women.

      White racists fear an opinionated, strong black person period. The speaker ignores that self-hatred is found among both genders. We should never sugarcoat the self-hatred found in some black males as an excuse to constantly focus on black women. Also, the BPP had men and women in them. The overall system of white supremacy should be exposed, but we have the responsibility to call out some black people who demonize black people unfairly. People have to realize that black men and black women must be liberated not just black men.

      At the end of the day, we need unity and liberation. God Bless You.

      • Courtney H. says:

        Good afternoon, Brother Timothy.

        Thank you for your thorough response to the video, and thank you for taking the time to watch it; it is long.

        I agree with what everything you said about the video, so I do not have to add anything. Now on the issue about the names . . . I have to admit that when I am at the cashier in a check-out line in a store, I look at the name tags, and I admit that I am relieved when I see a Black person who has what I consider to be a **normal** name (not necessarily a **White** name, but a normal name). I do not know if you have heard about this, but there was a study done a few years ago that showed that job applicants with **White-sounding names** were more likely to get call-backs than applicants with **Black-sounding names.** I do NOT have a problem with African names, just like I do not have a problem with any ethnic names (in fact, I like them. For example, I do not have a problem with names like **Shanequa** or **Dontavious** because I am used to them). However, made-up names that are hard to spell — let alone pronounce — will make it harder for people to get a job, and unfortunately people will see you as low-class.. Call me old-fashioned — my late mother was the same way. However, I agree with you that people should be able to name their kids whatever they want. I hope that I do not come across as being judgmental, because I don*t like when people are judgmental.

        I hope that I haven*t offended anyone. If I have, then I am sorry.

        • Timothy says:

          Good Afternoon Sister Courtney.

          The video was long. It was like a marathon of listening. LOL. The issue of names is an important discussion to have. In my spirit, I have to talk about the past. Centuries ago, white racist criminals took us from Africa and sent us into the Americas via the millions. We endured the destruction of our culture, our languages, our creeds, and our liberty. Brutish white slave forced their surnames unto our ancestors. This physical and cultural genocide was unjust. That is why we as black people are increasingly reclaiming our heritage in response to oppression. Later, we fought back and won many battles, yet we have not won the war yet. One of the battles that we are still fighting include racism and discrimination. Yes, I have heard of the study showing that people with more Eurocentric names have a higher chance of getting a job than people with more African-sounding names (even if they have equal qualifications). I also know of a study where some black people with no criminal record have the same chance of getting a job as a white felony. Therefore, the bias is not just anecdotal or limited. Bias and discrimination are systemic problems. Some names are easy to spell and some are harder to spell. Names are diverse. It is truly a shame that people will restrict qualified job opportunities by virtue of their names. Things must change. I don’t view you as judgmental. You’re too Sweet to be judgmental. 🙂 You are just outlining your experiences as a means to make a point. You have every right to do that. Fundamentally, we are fighting for the same goal of justice and liberation for black people. Our perspectives are important for edification, enlightenment, analysis, and social action.

          • Courtney H. says:

            Good Evening, Brother Timothy.

            Thank you for your understanding response.

            The issue of names is important. I am glad that you acknowledge the reason why we have Europeanized names in the first place. That is why many Black Muslims have the last name **X.** It takes the place of our lost surnames that were ripped from us during slavery. Our languages, culture, and religions were ripped from us, and we are still dealing with the ramifications of this atrocity to this very day. I think that Black people giving their children these Africanized names is one way to claim back our culture.

            I am glad that you mentioned the study that showed that college-educated Black people with no criminal record are less likely to get a job than high school-educated White people with criminal records. This is white supremacy in action, and it is part of the fabric of this society that we are still fighting.

    • Timothy says:

      I meant to write that:

      “…The black bourgeoisie decades ago had members who agreed with the evil Vietnam War and were active agents of the system of white supremacy…” That was my typo.

  30. Courtney H. says:

    I know that this is OT, but here is an interesting article. It is really long, so I just scanned it.

    • Timothy says:

      It is very ironic that you have shown that link, because I have been recently studying a lot about Afro-Mexican human beings. Many of them came into America from Angola and other parts of Africa. It is important to note that Mexico banned the slave trade in 1829 and Mexico elected a President of black African descent long before 2009 (when President Barack Obama was elected). The first black President of Mexico was Vicente Guerrero. Some black Mexicans have set up strong communities in Veracruz, Costa Chica, and other locations in Mexico. The book entitled, “Black in Latin America” has great information on the history and the culture of Mexico. I have read many chapters of the book and it is a great read. Also, many Afro-Mexicans have grown a sense of trying to understand their black African heritage. Even La Bamba has roots in black African culture. Many Afro-Mexicans proclaim themselves as “Soy Negro” or I am Black. Our struggle for liberation is nationwide. We, as African Americans, should study our people worldwide. We should have progressive insights on their experiences and on their lives. Mexicans have tons of racial classifications which is common in Latin America and South America. This is shown in the casta paintings of Mexico. On the other hand, we have the one drop rule in America. Our classifications of race are more rigid in America than in Mexico (which is more fluid). Many Mexicans wanted a racial democracy sincerely, but they ignored the importance of maintaining black cultural strength in Mexico. That is why Afro-Mexicans want to assert their human rights as racism is found both in America and Mexico. We have to remember the heroic actions of Gaspar Yaspar, who led a slave revolt in Mexico during 1570. Black people played an important role in the Mexican Revolution, which ended the Spanish imperial domination of Mexico too. So, we want all black people in the world to be free and liberated.

      Bless the Afro-Mexican people.

      Thank you for the link.

      Goodnight and God Bless You.

      • Courtney H. says:

        You are welcome. 🙂

        Good afternoon and God bless you, too.

        Thank you for reading that long link. It was very interesting. I remember we both have recalled the doc **Black in Latin America** from a few years ago. It was very informative.

        Everything about Afro-Mexicans is true. Since African history is not taught in Mexican schools, Afro-Mexicans are taking it upon themselves to learn their own history and have pride in their African heritage. That is a very good thing.

        Her is a brief article about an Afro-Mexican woman during the Mexican Revolution:

        And this is a little OT, but here is an article about the different possible motives for interracial dating among Black women. The comments are interesting. 😉

        Anyway, I hope that you had a blessed Valentine*s Day, and have a great weekend! 😀

        • Timothy says:

          Good Morning Sister Courtney.

          I’m snowed in for the moment. LOL. So, I will be back in work in a day or two.

          First, thank you for showing both links. They were certainly informative and interesting. As for the first link, learning about Afro-Mexican people is excellent. The Afro-Mexican Sister involved in the Mexican Revolution should be respected and acknowledged. Black history should not only be learned in February. It should be learned year round. The more that we understand about the African Diaspora, the more we learn about ourselves as black Americans. Yes, we do know about and mentioned information on the Black in America series years ago. I have the book and the DVD. The second link that you have shown was interesting too. The site has made its views known and its framework known. They have the right to believe in their views and I have the right to believe in Black Love as well. Interracial relationships are complex and many exist for diverse reasons. In any free society, we have to respect human autonomy and the freedom of association. We are not fascists and we are not authoritarians. If a black person wants to participate in an interracial relationship, then that is their business. Likewise, I have the right to date and marry a person of my own race.

          That’s my right too. Forever, I believe in Black Love not as a way to force my views unto others. I believe in it as a way to build up the relationships among black people and to develop the black community. Black love is not just about romance or sex. Black love is love among black family members. Black love can deal with love among black friends or black acquaintances. Black Love is diverse too. Liberation is not gender restrictive. In other words, Black Men and Black Women should have freedom and liberation. Black males and Black females are entitled to dignity, respect, equality, and justice. Some people use interracial relationships as an excuse for some to stereotype black women unfairly (as I don’t believe that BW in IRs should be cursed out, stereotyped, or demonized because of their voluntary romantic choices. The link that you have given show insights that many people don’t know), and some use them as a means to stereotype black men unfairly too.

          The truth is that any real relationship should be authentic and should focus on common interests, respect, sacrifice, commitment, and love. Without love, society can’t progress. It is as simple as that. People have the right to have diverse views and people have every right to build in the black community. Black people have every right to promote their interests. Black Love is not only beautiful (as we are a product of Black Love literally), but Black Love is a revolutionary act (as Sister Trojan Pam has accurately mentioned).

          I’m about to take some pictures of the snow soon. Bless You Sister. Have a Great Day. 🙂

          • Courtney H. says:

            Good afternoon, Brother Timothy. 🙂

            Some places down here in the past two days (most school systems were closed because of President*s Day) have been closed or opened late, especially in the northern part of the state (GA). It is pretty cold down here (highs are in the 40s), and it is supposed to snow (or at least flurry) this weekend. We had Snowmaggedon last year, and public officials do not want a repeat. There are warming centers being opened for homeless people, and public officials are saying that unless it is necessary, do not go anywhere.

            What state do you live in? As far south as the Carolinas, the snow is creating havoc. As for being snowed in, I hope that you have plenty of food and warmth! 😉

            Anyway, thank you for your responses. I enjoy learning more about the African Diaspora, because, like you said, we learn more about ourselves as Black Americans. These articles and series like Black in America have helped to open a lot of people*s eyes about Black people.

            That blog with the article about the interracial dating has its own agenda, like you said. It is interesting to look at from time to time to get perspective. It is obvious that this blog promotes interracial relationships between Black women and men of other races (the ads on the side of the page make sure of that). I agree with you that people have the right to date and marry whomever they want, and that they shouldn*t be condemned for making their choices.

            People have the choice to date interracially and they have the choice to date within their own race. However, dating and marrying someone (regardless of race) should not done for political, sexual, or other specious reasons. Love, similar interests and other more tangible things should be considered while dating and marrying.

            I hope that you take some good photos of the snow. Bless you, and you have a great day, Brother. 🙂

    • Timothy says:

      That’s an interesting article. Her comments are commonly expressed by many people. In Hollywood circles, if an actress or actor doesn’t play ball, then they could be blackballed. Monique is a talented black woman. She can work in the independent circles. This story shows the power structure in Hollywood Lee Daniels’ response to Monique pretty much confirms Monique’s statements. You will notice that Lee Daniels didn’t deny what Monique had to say. The powers that be have more influence in Hollywood than Lee Daniels. We have to use our discernment and witness the big picture that the exploitation of people in Hollywood still goes on.

      • Courtney H. says:

        I agree with everything that you said. Here is a video about Monique:

        • Courtney H. says:

          Here is another video about Monique:

        • Timothy says:

          Good Evening Sister Courtney. 🙂

          The speaker in the video has expressed numerous points. The video didn’t pull punches and it told many truths. Monique has a long career in comedy, acting, and in the talk show institution. She is from Baltimore. I have relatives from Baltimore. People in Baltimore are strong and they are honest people. What the speaker talked about in the beginning of the video was when Monique was talking to Larissa Hodge on the show Flavor of Love Girls: Charm School (reunion show). It existed back in 2006 when I was 23 years old. It was on Vh1. Monique was trying to tell Larissa that she should control her temper and Larissa was cursing Monique out when Monique was trying to mediate Larissa and Shay. My thinking is that at least Monique was trying to help people in that show. That show promoted stereotypes about black women though. Larissa is a better person now. Monique exercises now and she is a beautiful woman. Even when she was bigger, she was a beautiful black woman. The deal is that the speaker is right that the Hollywood industry is cut throat. If someone doesn’t’ play ball, then people won’t advance in that industry.

          Monique has always been honest and many white folks hate it when black people express honest views in a strong, uncompromising fashion. I believe that Monique can go through the independent path, go and perform in independent movies, form businesses, and help the community in unique ways. There is no honor among thieves and Hollywood are filled with some of the biggest thieves in American history. As for Monique’s comments on Charles Ramsey (I have listened to her comments about Charles Ramsey on Youtube today), she praised Charles Ramsey for his courage. Yet, I don’t agree with Monique’s other comments about how she wants to fix his hair. Monique’s words about Charles Ramsey were mostly about her showing love for what he did. She did not want to slander the man or hurt the man personally. Monique is not a white woman, so white privilege plays a role in this.

          Lee Daniels never denied what Monique said. Monique told the truth. I agree with the man that Lee Daniels has a horrendous character. Lee Daniels promotes a disgraceful film of Monster Ball (a film showing a racist white person being portrayed as “good”), Lee Daniels said slanderous words about black women, and he said that white folks can said the N word to black people. So, I have no respect for Lee Daniels as a man. A real man would defend their people not slander black people. The speaker is right that many white people have huge privilege in that industry. Monique being blackballed is not new, but it’s a reality. His views on Halle Berry are interesting. He is right that the white establishment views Halle Berry as exotic (in a sick, fetishistic type of way) and they exploit her image for exploitation (like in the movies Monster Ball, Swordfish, etc.). Halle Berry is a beautiful woman, but there are beautiful black women who are dark skinned too. Halle Berry is not the greatest actress in history, but she can act. Her film of “Introducing Dorothy Dandridge” proves that she can act. It is true that Lee Daniels never really supported Monique in the movie industry like that. Lee Daniels certainly is not a true friend of Monique as the man said in the video.

          At the end of the day, we have to maintain our integrity. It doesn’t profit a person to gain the whole world and loses one’s soul. In this generation, the truth is readily known. We have to not only condemn evil. We have to promote goodness and stand up for the interests of black people. Growing black infrastructure is a necessity.

          • Courtney H. says:

            Good evening, Brother Timothy. 🙂

            Thank you for watching the video. Harvey does make some interesting points. I don’t always agree with him, but it broadens your mind to hear what he has to say.

            I have been through Baltimore, but I have never lived there. I understand that the reason why Monique was so good in “Precious” (even though it is an awful, stereotypical movie) is because she grew up in Baltimore, which has a reputation for a being a rough city.

            I didn’t know about “Flavor of Love” and those other reality shows, because I do not watch them. They’re trash. So the only information that I know about them come from what your accounts and what Harvey and Tariq Nasheed have said. Anyway, Hollywood is a very cutthroat industry. Whites can get away with a lot of nonsense that Blacks can’t get away with. That’s a fact.

            Thank you for clearing up what Monique actually said about Charles Ramsey. I appreciate it, and the fact that you actually listened to the interview on YouTube shows that you are not willing to listen to gossip, and the facts from the primary source. Good for you!

            Lee Daniels is a coon. I’m glad that you mentioned Halle Berry’s performance in “Introducing Dorothy Dandridge.” She played a good part in that movie and won an Emmy. She can act, but I agree that there are Black actresses who are lot better than she is. Because she is of biracial parentage, Halle Berry is exoticized, just like Lupita N’yongo has been since she won her Oscar last year.

            I agree that building our infrastructure is very important to combat evil and promote good, just like you said.

            • Timothy says:

              Good Evening Sister Courtney. 🙂

              The movie Precious was a heartbreaking movie. It was filled with stereotypes and many things that I don’t agree with. Baltimore is a strong city and many activists are fighting for progressive changes there. Baltimore is filled with Strong Brothers and Strong Sisters. We all wish the best for Monique. I am glad that you don’t know about many of these other reality TV shows. You don’t have to watch that. Hollywood is a place where people are exploited and manipulated literally and figuratively. You are right about the racial double standards too. Sean Penn and Charlie Sheen have done an enormous amount of drug abuse, and other crimes that I can’t mention here from back in the day. If a black people did some of what they did, they would not get away with it period. They will be in prison for a long time.

              I like to listen to primary sources and not unconditionally trust gossip. Thank you for mentioning praise of my detective skills. Lee Daniels is a male with problems. He has consciously has made films that degrade his own people. For that, I have no respect for him and I do realize that the ruling white supremacists are using him to promote an agenda (of continued oppression against the black community). I have seen “Introducing Dorothy Dandridge.” It is a great film from an artistic standpoint. Dorothy Dandridge was a talented Sister, who was heavily mistreated by white racists. I have great sympathy with Dorothy, because at least her roles were more dignified than what Hollywood promotes today. At least she had incredible talent in acting, dancing, and singing. She loved acting and she supported the civil rights movement as well.

              RIP Sister Dorothy Dandridge.

              Halle Berry (who is biracial) and Lupita N’yongo are eroticized indeed by mainstream society. Lupita N’yongo is a very beautiful black woman woman who speaks the truth about how beauty deals with compassion. I love Sister’s Lupita’s speech on beauty, which not only gives strength to black women. Her speech addresses the evil of colorism and how we must end colorism if we want to be free. Black is beautiful. As the elders have said, we have to build.

              • Courtney H. says:

                Good afternoon, Brother Timothy. 🙂

                Thank you for your response, and I agree with everything that you have said. if people want to be in entertainment, that is fine with me — people should follow their dreams. It is just that in many ways, Hollyweird is a mess. I am glad that I am not famous, with people getting into my business.

                You are welcome (about your detective skills). I do not like it when people throw out facts (or opinions without backing themselves up with primary sources.

                “Introducing Dorothy Dandridge” was indeed a very good movie, and I am glad that Halle Berry won an Emmy for her performance. RIP Dorothy Dandridge. She struggled a lot with racism and mental illness (she reportedly had bipolar disorder). Unfortunately she died very young, but she made an impact. Halle Berry has acknowledged this a great deal.

                Lupita N’yongo is a very proud sister, and I am glad about that. She has talked honestly about colorism in the Black community, and how it has affected her. We have dealt with it in one way or another.

          • I did a post on Mr Daniels. I don’t trust this man. I think he is very devious and aware of the mayhem he creates with negative black images. I think you might like the post. Check it out and let me know what you think. Thanks.

            • Courtney H. says:

              Good Afternoon, Brother Kushite. 🙂

              I have already read your article about Lee Daniels, Danny Strong, and “Empire.” I also left comments and posted three videos, which you have already viewed. It was a very good and perceptive article that you wrote!

              I have one caveat: I like the painting in the background of your blog, but some of the words in the articles and comments are hard to read because of the light background. Is it possible that you can fix this? I had to highlight the article (right click) on the article and the comments in order to read them clearly. I greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

            • Timothy says:

              I will certainly look at the post Brother. I agree with you on Lee Daniels too.

  31. Courtney H. says:

    Here’s a cool article about an extraordinary young sister:

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